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Adam Munich
Tue Jun 21 2011, 02:19AM Print
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Today I felt ballsy enough to short out one of my batteries, this time with about 75% charge on it. Let's just say that C&D technologies wasn't lying when they said the thing has an impedance of 0.00208 ohms!



I wish I had enough 4 gauge wire to put another one in parallel, but even this is impressive by my standards. Heh, imagine what 50 of these things in series could do! If somebody would like to donate $12,500 we could find out...
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Chip Fixes
Tue Jun 21 2011, 03:18AM
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Haha that made my day
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Electra
Thu Jun 23 2011, 12:07AM
Electra Registered Member #816 Joined: Sun Jun 03 2007, 07:29PM
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That looks quite fun, though I admit still a little bit sceptical that it is actually 5000A, Which is really a lot, would have thought the cables would have heated up a bit too if it were, but a good many hundreds of amps for sure, is there any way to measure it ?
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Adam Munich
Thu Jun 23 2011, 12:58AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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The cables got toasty!

When short circuited 5kA would flow (cable, switch and battery impedance taken into account), but I'd imagine that the nail is limiting current somewhat. It's anyone's guess as to what is flowing.
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Patrick
Thu Jun 23 2011, 01:54AM
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What was the voltage at the time the switch was closed?
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Adam Munich
Thu Jun 23 2011, 01:56AM
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I didn't measure it, but it was probably sagging somewhat.
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ScotchTapeLord
Thu Jun 23 2011, 03:03AM
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I think 5kA would have welded that switch together... or at least gotten too hot to touch with your bare hand. Perhaps a few hundred amps at first, but dropping much lower as the resistance rose due to heating.

Pretty scary, nonetheless. Good setup for testing your buss structures. ;)
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Adam Munich
Thu Jun 23 2011, 03:17AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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You are probably right. That battery can supply 5.7kA though, and if I had a welding mask I could likely pull an arc from it.
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Bored Chemist
Thu Jun 23 2011, 11:03AM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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Do your roofs fall off?
The reason I ask is that the nail looks (judging from the sparks) to have been made from steel.
My roof was recently re tiled and they used copper nails (as the original builders had) because it's a damned nuisance when they go rusty and fail.
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Adam Munich
Thu Jun 23 2011, 12:12PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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It's a copper coated nail like any other one. A pure copper nail would be too soft to pound into the wood.
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