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Can I get radio wave transparent IR reflective foil?

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Bored Chemist
Mon Jun 20 2011, 04:00PM Print
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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OK, it's an odd title.
I want to insulate my loft. The best insulators are covered with a layer of metal foil to block absorption and radiation of IR.
Unfortunately, my TV antenna is in the loft and the foil will stop the signal getting through.
I can't just strip the foil off part of the insulation because there's an inspection after it's installed and, anyway, I don't want to spoil the insulation value more than I can help.

I'm sure that I have read that microwaves (and TV signals are pretty close to µwaves) can make their way through slits rather well.

Does anyone know if I can slit the foil in such a way that it lets a significant part of the TV signal through while still blocking most of the IR?
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Ash Small
Mon Jun 20 2011, 04:44PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Have you considered an external antenna? This may be the simplest solution.

You are correct that RF will travel through slits, but I don't know enough about it to be able to advise on this particular matter.
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Bored Chemist
Wed Jun 22 2011, 05:28PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
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I though about putting the antenna outside but it's much easier to get to the loft (by going up the stairs) than to get to the roof. It's probably Plan B but I don't want to abandon Plan A just yet.
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Sulaiman
Sun Jul 03 2011, 06:39AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Despite the theory of metal sheets blocking radio waves,
I suspect that the attenuation may be less than expected!
Get a sheet of the intended insulation, put it in line with your aerial/antenna in roughly it's expected final position and try!
If you are in a weak signal area you may have problems,
otherwise I suspect you may not notice the signal loss.

(The factory I work in has a double skin of steel yet tv, radio and cellphones work, even though they shouldn't)
(The factory is only about 5 miles line-of-sight from a 1 MW per TV channel and 250 kW per FM Radio channel transmitter though Link2 )
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Forty
Sun Jul 03 2011, 05:12PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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what about using the foil AS your antenna?
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Bored Chemist
Sun Jul 03 2011, 06:35PM
Bored Chemist Registered Member #193 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 07:04AM
Location: sheffield
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You wait ages for a reply then two come along at once!
Forty, If I knew how to do that I could probably work out how to slit it to let the RF through.
Sulaiman,
I think that two layers of foam, each with two layers of foil will not leave a lot of signal, but I will try it anyway.
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Fraggle
Sun Jul 03 2011, 11:24PM
Fraggle Registered Member #1526 Joined: Mon Jun 09 2008, 12:56AM
Location: UK
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Glass let`s radio through and blocks a lot of IR if that`s any help.
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Hon1nbo
Mon Jul 04 2011, 12:21PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
Location: North Texas
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Fraggle wrote ...

Glass let`s radio through and blocks a lot of IR if that`s any help.

But that would absorb the IR, whereas in home insulation you want to reflect the IR.

-Jimmy
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