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Possible source of cheap flash chips?

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Conundrum
Mon Jun 13 2011, 10:43AM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.

Just noticed something interesting about the Sandisk 512MB microSDs.

Seems that the label (as on some other cards) covers the tiny pads which presumably were
left from manufacturing and testing them.

The newer 2GB cards also have these but they are covered with paint presumably to stop tampering.

If I am not mistaken then these pads actually connect directly to the onboard Flash chip, so
in principle they could be used to not only recover data from dead cards but also to avoid the use of hard to
solder TQFP chips for hardware hacking purposes.

If so, then the only tools needed would be a fine soldering iron, some sort of adapter and a suitable host.

Maybe I have uncovered the dirty secret of FrankenFlash cards here, which are made those naughty people in a certain place which shall not be named smile to imitate expensive 16 and 32GB cards with 2GB cheap ones.

-A
(apologies for lousy picture!)

1307961838 96 FT0 Flash
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Pinky's Brain
Tue Jun 14 2011, 01:22AM
Pinky's Brain Registered Member #2901 Joined: Thu Jun 03 2010, 01:25PM
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Directly interfacing with NAND chips isn't something I'd want to do, that stuff is so unreliable nowadays ... just use the SDIO and let the controller worry about it.
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Conundrum
Tue Jun 14 2011, 07:31PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
Location: CI, Earth
Posts: 4061
Yeah, I have looked into this.

The main problem is that this limits me to <512MB SD as the SDHC spec is only available after signing an NDA.

Unfortunately larger cards tend to be SDHC only.

A while back I bought some host controllers from Sparkfun which are supposed to talk to SDHC but are a pain to interface to.

-A
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