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Conundrum
Mon Jun 06 2011, 09:15AM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hi all.

Probably a stupid question, but why isn't there a device on the market for testing bare Li-Ion cells?

One possible idea is to cross connect two chargers so that battery + charger A discharges into battery + charger B, and a microcontroller logs the results to internal memory.
When cell A is flat B begins charging it until it is nearly full.

Any extra energy needed is drawn from a common DC supply in order to achieve 95% charge.

Seems to make sense, why waste energy into a power resistor etc.

Obviously you would need something like a double changeover relay but it shouldn't be that hard.

-A



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Electroholic
Mon Jun 06 2011, 11:08AM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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what you typed sounded very confusing to me, but you seem to be thinking about cell balancing. If the answer is yes, then theres this interesting topology called cuk converter. I said its interesting because when it is set up with two series connected cells, the circuit is symmetrical...
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Conundrum
Mon Jun 06 2011, 02:02PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Hmm, this is interesting so thanks for the info.

I will have to look into this, was aware of cell balancing but not that it was done in series.. sounds feasible.

-A
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ConKbot of Doom
Tue Jun 07 2011, 01:29PM
ConKbot of Doom Registered Member #509 Joined: Sat Feb 10 2007, 07:02AM
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The Revolectrix power-lab 8 does regenerative discharging if youre powering it from a 12V (maybe even 24v?) SLA. Charging upto 1.3kW and regenerative discharge is pretty hefty too IIRC. It handles upto 8S balanced Li-Ion packs, and you can hook it up to a PC for data logging. I dont know if their software supports multiple cycles for cell longevity testing etc, but their interface cable is just an optioisolated USB-Serial cable (power, ground and signal from the charger to power the optoisolated side, most likely TTL, but I havent metered/scoped it) So if you want something to do cycle testing then a bit of serial port sniffing might be useful.
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Conundrum
Tue Jun 07 2011, 10:54PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Interesting, though a little expensive for hobbyist use.

Thanks for the info though.

-A
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