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Platinum
Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:36PM Print
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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How can I charge this without a charger?

Something like that

Link2

Can I just put like 10vDC in there at like 500miliamps, and check the voltage and current everynow and then with a multimeter?
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Chip Fixes
Fri Jun 03 2011, 09:25PM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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it would just be easier if you buy/sourced a 9v charger that is meant to charge batteries for RC cars and stuff, then you could just leave it plugged in without having to watch it
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Platinum
Fri Jun 03 2011, 09:29PM
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It broke, and I don't have enough money for another one, I can get one next week, but for now is there any way?
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Bjørn
Fri Jun 03 2011, 11:13PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Have a look here: Link2

Yes. you can charge it manually, but if you forget about it you will destroy the battery and possibly what it is sitting on.
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Platinum
Mon Jun 06 2011, 07:31AM
Platinum Registered Member #3926 Joined: Fri Jun 03 2011, 08:32PM
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I have a 12v 32amp PSU, what ohm resistor do I need to limit the current going to the 1500maH battery?


Also is 12v too much?
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Conundrum
Mon Jun 06 2011, 08:50AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Bad move, Li-Ion cells need CVCL (Constant Voltage Current Limit) charging.

Depending on cell type you first charge it with a constant current of 0.3C up to 4V then constant *voltage* at 4.15V +/- 0.05V until current drops to 10% of cell capacity i.e. 100mA for a 1Ah cell.

DO NOT CHARGE IT beyond that point, or it will become dangerously unstable and possibly vent with flame.
This is especially true with Li-Po cells and the temperature rise yielding a VWF can be less than 30C above room temperature which means the cell can feel only warm to the touch before runaway begins.

I have charged these manually before but it is essential to do it right.
The safest method I have found is to simply use a spare Li-Ion camera charger as this has the existing failsafes etc and shuts down when charged.
Got me out of a few sticky situations with phone cells before.

Wonder why they don't make a "smart" Li charger which just reads the markings off the back of a cell with a webcam, OCRs it then uses this for calculating required charge.

Can't be that hard methinks, and have it default to "dumb" charging if it can't read the values or they are inconsistent with the cell being examined.

See Link2


-A
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Platinum
Mon Jun 06 2011, 03:00PM
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It's a nickel metal hydride battery.
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