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analog to digital engine dyno conversion

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M477i3win2
Wed Jun 01 2011, 11:51PM Print
M477i3win2 Registered Member #3863 Joined: Thu May 05 2011, 12:52AM
Location: buffalo NY
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So my father and I have a small engine dyno that we want to convert to digital. Are family builds small engines and uses them for racing gokarts.
To record the data two people are needed at once, the operator and the recorder i like to call. The operator has to have the hands of a surgeon, and the recorder has to be really fast and legible about writing down the data such as tourq and RPM. At the same time both of the two people have to be extremely precise about either operating the dyno, or recoding down the data.
What we would like to do is convert he data and input it into a computer. Where a program written, controls the flow of methanol via a lever on the carburetor, and record the tourq data and the rpm data. my brick wall is mainly the conversion part of it, how do i go about getting the data into the computer. would an arduino work?
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Bjørn
Thu Jun 02 2011, 04:51AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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Yes, just about any microcontroller will do nicely. The microcontroller can control a servo that controls the engine. The RPM can be sensed as a series of pulses. The torque would be slightly more complex to read, depending on the setup you got. Several 4HV members have made similar systems before.
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Shrad
Thu Jun 02 2011, 07:14AM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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there are some very simple microcontroller projects using either usb or serial

you can search for a simple pic18f2550 datalogger project (or an atmel equivalent, or arduino)

the main advantage of datalogger projects is you already have access to a free datalogging software usually written by the creators of the project

if you need a tip about speed recording, there is a really simple approach

a mouse wheel with its photodetector, and a frequency to voltage converter and you're done with a nice precision if you can calibrate it against a dyno
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Ash Small
Thu Jun 02 2011, 10:57AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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You can also sense RPM using a current transformer on the HT lead (or a similar feedback setup from the ignition circuit)

Obviously, if it is four stroke, you'll need to multiply by two.
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M477i3win2
Thu Jun 02 2011, 11:44AM
M477i3win2 Registered Member #3863 Joined: Thu May 05 2011, 12:52AM
Location: buffalo NY
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well I forgot to also add some things I was kinda in a hurry. The engine we are using is a briggs and stratton 4 stroke flat head. But soon we will be using the dyno for a briggs and stratton animal (the vlaves are overhead and not in line with the piston). The dyno has a hydraulic load cell, which is a cast housing with a fan connected to the crank shaft of the motor. The more water that is poured into the cell the more resistance.

But getting back on topic the load cell that we use right now to meaure the torque is a hydraulic load cell. We are considering buying a new load sensor, but we don't know what brand is good or bad. On top of there being so many different types of load cells we don't really know what style will fit the dyno best.

I can post some pics if you would like?
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