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Madgyver
Mon May 23 2011, 06:00PM Print
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
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Once again I need the help of people who are smarter then me.

I stumpled upon this video:

Link2

Which seems to be a legit TEDx video (although I don't know if TEDx has similar quality standarts then TED)
Since my math skills are mediocre at best (I can apply math well enough to solve engineering and physics problems but have no clue about the underlying structure), what do you think about this? In my opinion it seems far fetched with no actual proof. To me it looks like that guy has found some kind of magic square or Sudoku pattern and blows it out of proportion. I mean yeah, sure if he can analyticaly solve gravitational problems without any anomlies, why not amuse us with an analytical description of the 3 or n body problem?

Is this pseudo science in the making?
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Pinky's Brain
Mon May 23 2011, 11:19PM
Pinky's Brain Registered Member #2901 Joined: Thu Jun 03 2010, 01:25PM
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Pseudo science is too nice a term for numerology, also this is old ... Rodin coil bullshit.
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Coronafix
Mon May 23 2011, 11:32PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Your link makes some rather fanciful claims, but looking at the intro to vortex maths, it is quite fascinating!
I always hated the times tables in school yet am very good at maths and love numbers, I wish i knew this back then, it makes so much more sense.
I've been thinking lately about energy being quantized in whole numbers and the ratio of division that occurs in the universe, in particular the atomic spectra. This has fuelled that thought process a bit.
Thanks.

It can't be called psuedoscience because it is pure maths.
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Forty
Mon May 23 2011, 11:37PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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I drew up something that looks a lot like a rodin coil a long time ago in a notebook, but i figured that, aside from looking cool, it was worthless. do they actually do anything interesting or are they just a combination of toroid winding and wreath making?
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Coronafix
Mon May 23 2011, 11:41PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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May I suggest we stick to the math rather than all the psuedoscience claims lest this thread be locked.
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Dr. Slack
Tue May 24 2011, 05:58AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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I couldn't force myself to watch beyond minute 6 (does it get better in the last 4 minutes anyone??)

It's awesome in the way he takes a large bag of buzzwords, shakes them out onto the table, and then generates a narative path of apparent connections and causation between them all.

Awesome personal skills, just as far from science as you could possibly get.
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Mattski
Tue May 24 2011, 06:28AM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
Location: University of California
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wrote ...
I couldn't force myself to watch beyond minute 6 (does it get better in the last 4 minutes anyone??)
It didn't get any better at the end. I would say it got worse, but I think my brain hit a BS overflow at the halfway point, and the BS of the second half of his talk overwrote the first half.

As you said, he just took every popsci buzzword he could think of and shoe-horned them all into his talk all while promising to save the world in every way he could think of and generate limitless free energy. The fact that he managed to do it with a straight face means that he is either incredibly brazen or incredibly foolish.
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Coronafix
Tue May 24 2011, 06:30AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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No it doesn't get any better.
I watched the intro into vortex maths though and that was interesting. It's a magic number circle that can do math functions. Its still hard to watch though.
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Madgyver
Wed May 25 2011, 01:38PM
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
Location: Munich, Germany
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Wll frankly I dont see what the big deal is. Sure what he "discovered" here is kinda neat if you are into math magic. But how is ist usefull? I can't even get my head around to use this to make simple calculations.
Can you elaborate what you see in this, Coronafix?
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