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Problems with a circuit prototype for voltage clamping amp with 1 gain based on AD8036 amp.

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tarakan2
Sun May 01 2011, 04:34PM Print
tarakan2 Registered Member #3859 Joined: Sun May 01 2011, 03:47PM
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I built a circuit that i ripped off the data sheet.
Why do I get a 1.9V on the output when there is no input?
Are -input and the resistor acting as a voltage divider and giving me this voltage?
How do I solve this problem?
Yet the overvoltage works.
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tarakan2
Sun May 01 2011, 08:07PM
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The two capacitors are combined into one between power and ground.
I am not sure why, but i see it on many circuits like that.
So why do I get voltage when there is no input?
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tarakan2
Tue May 03 2011, 04:42AM
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So why doesn't it work???
I spent a long time trying to figure that out.
If -input is disconnected than the amp outputs 2.9 volts.
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James
Tue May 03 2011, 06:26AM
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Whoa, how about posting once and waiting for a response...

It's difficult to read the sideways schematic, but it looks like you're using a 3V power supply? I just had a look at the datasheet and it lists the absolute minimum as +/- 3V, so 6V total, with ground in the middle. I would start by making sure you have a proper power supply.

The capacitors are for decoupling. They should be placed as close as possible to the power pins they connect to. The idea is to counter the effects of parasitic resistance in the traces when the IC draws spikes of current.
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tarakan2
Tue May 03 2011, 03:01PM
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James wrote ...

Whoa, how about posting once and waiting for a response...

It's difficult to read the sideways schematic, but it looks like you're using a 3V power supply? I just had a look at the datasheet and it lists the absolute minimum as +/- 3V, so 6V total, with ground in the middle. I would start by making sure you have a proper power supply.

The capacitors are for decoupling. They should be placed as close as possible to the power pins they connect to. The idea is to counter the effects of parasitic resistance in the traces when the IC draws spikes of current.

The reason I repost is because I keep working on it.

Here is the datasheet:
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I am testing this device with DC only. When I build this circuit, I will put caps next to the pins. The amp is supposed to work with DC and signals.

I have a problem that the -input pin and the output are connected through a resistor, therefore, I suspect that -input circuit and that resistor form a voltage divider that causes this voltage to appear on the input pin.

They should act as a negative feedback?
What do you think it the problem?
Maybe there is a better circuit to use.

Thank you.
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James
Tue May 03 2011, 05:08PM
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You can edit an existing post.

The resistor from output to negative input provides negative feedback, you need that otherwise you have nearly infinite gain and the op-amp will act as a comparator.

What is your power supply? As I said, if you are running it only from 3V it won't work.
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tarakan2
Tue May 03 2011, 10:53PM
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As far as I remember from the datasheet, this opamp is designed to run of the 3 volt supply.

The reason I picked it was so a microcontroller can run off the same 3 volts and the input can be limited to +3 volts for the ADC input.
The ADC doesn't except negative voltages as I understand.
And the microcontroller is: STM32F103RET6
I think that few generic microcontrollers accept -voltages on their ADCs.
Is that true?
Why wouldn't it work?
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James
Tue May 03 2011, 11:48PM
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I looked at the datasheet and it said the minimum supply was +/- 3V. I could be wrong, but that implies that you need a bipolar supply, with 3V on either side of ground, in other words a split 6V supply. There are op-amps designed specifically to use a single ended supply, but in that case you need to create a false ground.

Try a split supply with your circuit and see what it does.
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tarakan2
Tue May 03 2011, 11:51PM
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So I should use 6 volts with a voltage divider?
I have another opamp that can clamp input that i might end up using.
But thank you for explaining the +-.
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tarakan2
Wed May 04 2011, 12:09AM
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Actually I don't have another op amp that can protect the input from over-voltage.
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