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Inducktion
Sun Mar 27 2011, 10:05PM Print
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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Hey all, I got a ferrite core transformer (not the flyback) from a monitor. I managed to salvage the bobbin and the ferrites successfully, and was wondering, how do you usually tell how much power the core can handle?

It's a pretty sizeable transformer, and its got a logo and some numbers on the top.

I have a dollar bill behind it for size.


1301263505 3637 FT0 P1060307

1301263505 3637 FT0 P1060308
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Arcstarter
Sun Mar 27 2011, 10:15PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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Well that one could surely handle 500 watts continuous fine tongue . The ferrites in monitors and TVs usually handle from around 100-400 watts in normal use.
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Experimentonomen
Sun Mar 27 2011, 10:18PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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The power rating of the moniter gives you a hint. Anyways that core is somewhere between ETD39 and ETD50.
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ZakWolf
Sun Mar 27 2011, 11:02PM
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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I have a ton of these what can you use them for ? high voltage or a power supply?
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James
Mon Mar 28 2011, 01:12AM
James Registered Member #3610 Joined: Thu Jan 13 2011, 03:29AM
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Most CRT monitors consume about 100W in operation. I've measured my 22" CRT at anywhere from 80-120W depending on resolution and what's on the screen. These transformers are almost always run in flyback topology supplies which accounts for their relatively large size for the power level. They are nice big cores though, should be good for a few hundred Watts driven push-pull. Useful for all sorts of power supply applications, the output voltage only depends on the secondary turns count.
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ZakWolf
Mon Mar 28 2011, 01:27AM
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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so could i wind a coil and put it onto the middle part of the E core and add some primary windings on one of the other sides?
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Dr. Slack
Mon Mar 28 2011, 07:40AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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so could i wind a coil and put it onto the middle part of the E core and add some primary windings on one of the other sides?

No, because then the other side would be magnetically shunting the windings. If you have to ask the question, then you probably won't understand the explanation of why it's bad, but this type of shunt would be bad.

You *could* put it on the middle part of the E core and add two identical primary windings, one on each of the other legs. This reduces the length of copper needed slightly, but that's rarely the most important loss in the transformer. It gives you a little flexibility in that the primaries can be used in either series or parallel, but you must use both identically, you cannot drive them in push-pull, as they're not coupled properly.

A transformer wound like this will have singnifcantly poorer coupling (which is bad) than the conventional way of winding it with both primary and secondary on the centre leg. If you put two primaries on in the conventional way, you would still have the series or parallel flexibility, *and* you could drive them push-pull if you wanted to.
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James
Tue Mar 29 2011, 12:44AM
James Registered Member #3610 Joined: Thu Jan 13 2011, 03:29AM
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Why not just wind it the way it was originally wound? Insulate the layers adequately and you should be fine. Alternately you could make a partition to divide the bobbin and place the two windings side by side, that's a common technique for providing improved isolation.
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