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Turkey9
Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:55AM Print
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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What would be the best way to sense over head power lines based on the electric field produced? Would an antenna be the best bet or a pickup type coil? I just need to find the best way to get a measurable increase in sensor output when it is put within lets say 10 feet of a power line.
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radiotech
Sat Mar 26 2011, 09:23AM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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A milligaussmeter is commonly used to determine the
B field at ground level. They are inexpensive and consist
of a coil and an amplifier tuned to 60 or 50 Hz.

Dont even think of elevating it, or any other instrument
to get more signal, above the earth under the line.

The only ones to do that are linemen or power line
technicians.


1301131421 2463 FT111596 Drgauss
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Mar 26 2011, 11:11AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I think an antenna with a rectifier and an amp would be more than enough, if a powerline can partially light up a fluorescent tube... The operator's hand would be used as a ground.
Maybe just a bridge rectifier, a cap and a neon bulb would be sufficient, the bulb would flash in the presence of electric field.
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Turkey9
Sun Mar 27 2011, 05:42AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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Ok I didn't think it would be very difficult. Is there a specific length of antenna that would be best?
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Proud Mary
Sun Mar 27 2011, 11:19AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Hello Mr Turkey!

The excellent Radio Waves Below 22kHz site is sure to give you ideas for magnetic antennas (such as the different sorts of loops) and E-field antennas (such as active probe antennas) which would both be suitable for monitoring the EM activity of power lines from a safe distance.

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Adam Munich
Sun Mar 27 2011, 05:05PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Hold up a florescent tube! You could then use a luxmeter to measure the output. That would be the most fun way in my opinion....


Fluorescent Tube Under Electric Line1 Box1 Light1
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radiotech
Sun Mar 27 2011, 05:39PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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People reaching UP and
touching electrical lines is
by far tha leading cause of death
whereas power lines falling DOWN
on people is very rare.

That's just the way it is, always
has been, ever since Tom Edison
decided on 110 volts for
his light bulb.
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Adam Munich
Sun Mar 27 2011, 05:44PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Nobody is touching the power lines in those photos, the EMF from the lines causes the lamps to glow.
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