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Sparrow338
Thu Mar 17 2011, 04:14AM Print
Sparrow338 Registered Member #661 Joined: Sat Apr 21 2007, 03:17AM
Location: Ventura, CA
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Hi all.
I’ve had this little transformer for a few years now and never really looked at it or tested it out. It came in a big box with several other low voltage transformers (none of which were related to this one). I have no idea what it came out of or where it’s for, I could guess though. Figured I’d post it up here and see if anyone knows more about it than is just printed on it; get some more information on it before I use it for something.

Printed on one of it’s sides is the following information: VARO; D.C. Power Supply; 971-0050-400; Input: 115V, 60Hz; Output: +14.5kV Peak At 0.73mA.

It’s about 6”x3.5”x3”. One of the pictures shows the side taken off (just two sheet metal screws holding it on) and shows some of the mica insulation. From what I can see the entire unit seems to have about 3/16” layer of mica on all internal walls. Weights (guessing) around 4lbs.

Due too its DC output and its very low current I thought it might be for an ionizer, maybe a air filter set up. Although I’ve never seen an “all-in-one” unit like this, usually setups for those previously stated things are more "open". But then again I haven't seen too many of those rigs. I would imagine inside this little guy is a small setup transformer than a CW multiplier, but I don't really know.

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Just interested on knowing what it was made for or what it came out of. I’ve done some searching around on Google and though the forum but I can’t seem to find anything. Thought it might be a good idea to learn more about it before I plug it in and break it… :)

-Sparrow
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quicksilver
Thu Mar 17 2011, 07:09PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
Location: Oracle, AZ
Posts: 679
73 ma is not low current. However I agree w/ you that it could have a multiplier of some type within as it's somewhat small for the specs. The plugs are also unique & appear to be a design for a compartmentalized unit.
I'd say that it could be a mil-spec transformer by the looks of the plugs. The mica shielding and the tar doesn't allow any deeper inspection but it could be from some type of military use judging by the format of the numbers on the case..
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James
Thu Mar 17 2011, 07:33PM
James Registered Member #3610 Joined: Thu Jan 13 2011, 03:29AM
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 506
quicksilver wrote ...

73 ma is not low current. However I agree w/ you that it could have a multiplier of some type within as it's somewhat small for the specs. The plugs are also unique & appear to be a design for a compartmentalized unit.
I'd say that it could be a mil-spec transformer by the looks of the plugs. The mica shielding and the tar doesn't allow any deeper inspection but it could be from some type of military use judging by the format of the numbers on the case..


He said 0.73mA. Assuming that is correct, that's very low current, less than 1mA.
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quicksilver
Thu Mar 17 2011, 08:06PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
Location: Oracle, AZ
Posts: 679
ohh. My bad. I just saw the decimal as well. cry

I also thought it may have been from a arc-light unit that was sold occasionally in parts (the whole unit is very large). But The one I had seen on eBay is gone.

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James
Fri Mar 18 2011, 12:36AM
James Registered Member #3610 Joined: Thu Jan 13 2011, 03:29AM
Location: Seattle, WA
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I can only speculate, but it seems like the sort of thing that may have come from a dielectric tester for insulation or oil. Also could have been an old air purifier or something of that nature. Either way it appears to be a simple iron transformer, I would hook it up and see what happens. You'll want to measure the secondary current under load to find out if it's a high leakage (current limited) transformer, otherwise be careful not to overload it.
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Shrad
Fri Mar 18 2011, 09:36PM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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I have seen one time a similar unit (not that model though) in a cattle fence power supply

maybe this is the same setup, with internal pulse generator (a thyristor and a RC network, something like that)
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quicksilver
Sun Mar 20 2011, 06:25PM
quicksilver Registered Member #1408 Joined: Fri Mar 21 2008, 03:49PM
Location: Oracle, AZ
Posts: 679
Shrad wrote ...

I have seen one time a similar unit (not that model though) in a cattle fence power supply

maybe this is the same setup, with internal pulse generator (a thyristor and a RC network, something like that)

I can see the logic in this supposition however the majority I have seen had simpler labeling ("Fence" & "Ground"). This unit was obviously made for indoors as well & has what appears to be part coding.... It's a puzzle.
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