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Leakage Inductance EHT transformer...

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Nicko
Mon Mar 07 2011, 04:55PM Print
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
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Continuing the clearout, I have found a heavy "Leakage Inductance Transformer"...

It is massive, has one primary (10-0-200-220-240V @ 50Hz) and two secondaries - 0-6.3V @ 300mA RMS normal regulation, and 0-5400V RMS (open circuit)/220mA RMS short circuit... about a 8 inch cube and weighing in at about 30 lb.

Apart from scaring people, could someone explain what differentiates a "Leakage Inductance Transformer" like this from any other sort of normal transformer...

Edit: Getting a bit further on this - the HV secondary is deliberately separated from the primary to increase leakage, thus this turns into a sort of "constant power" transformer with max voltage at 0 current and max current when shorted - it will be short-circuit proof...

So I should get 5400VAC with little current draw and about 220mA when shorted, so assuming linear derating (which is a bit generous) we are looking at about 300VA.

Now I just need to come up with something to do with it. Other than land-fill, that is...

Thanks
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klugesmith
Mon Mar 07 2011, 06:41PM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
Location: Los Altos, California
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Nicko wrote ...
Now I just need to come up with something to do with it. Other than land-fill, that is...
Do you have a boat that needs to be anchored somewhere?

Sounds like a behavioral big cousin of the NST. Can you tell if the core is shunted between the primary and secondary windings?
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Mar 07 2011, 08:43PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
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It's not a constant power transformer, the output characteristics should be the same like if you connected a choke/inductor in series with the transformer's primary winding.
The maximum output power into a resistive load will be more than VA/4 because with a series RL circuit the voltages form an impedance triangle (they do not add up...)
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Nicko
Mon Mar 07 2011, 09:27PM
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
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There just seems so little out there on these beasts. This one was used in an old ion pump for high vacuum lab equipment - I'm informed that any others like this are only likely to be found in the Cavandish Labs darkest & dustiest storerooms...

Still looking for a use for it, though...
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Mar 07 2011, 09:59PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
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Make a Jacob's ladder? tongue
// or a SGTC, etc... It is just your normal current limited HV transformer.
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