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jaysun92
Wed Feb 16 2011, 12:43AM Print
jaysun92 Registered Member #2114 Joined: Fri May 08 2009, 11:58AM
Location: London, Ontario
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Hi i have this part and I'm having trouble identifying it. I think it is a SCR but i cant find a data sheet for it.

On it says "AEG (diode symbol) D 120/2000 B-11U3"

Thanks for your help.

Ive included a picture in case it helps
1297816989 2114 FT0 Photo Feb 15 7 37 27 Pm
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Patrick
Wed Feb 16 2011, 12:53AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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The diode Symbol sometimes is used as the Rectron corporate logo, Rectron might be the maker.

EDIT: Sorry, I searched all my methods for your part found nothing.
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Electroholic
Wed Feb 16 2011, 01:55PM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
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most probably 2000V 120A or it could be 1200V 200A. If you can find the gate lead, then it would be an scr.
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dmg
Thu Feb 17 2011, 03:27AM
dmg Registered Member #2628 Joined: Fri Jan 15 2010, 12:23AM
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It looks like there is a tiny little bare metal stump near that cathode wire.
You can perform a mulitimeter test on that stump to see if it will behave like an SCR (testing via gate charging using the ohmeter function). If that doesnt work, or that stump isnt connected to anything, then I would belive it to be just a stud diode.
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Nah
Thu Feb 17 2011, 11:03PM
Nah Registered Member #3567 Joined: Mon Jan 03 2011, 10:49PM
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I can't belive that nobody has said this.

I myself think it is a modern selenium rectifier. Test the voltage drop, it should be a lot more than a SI diode.

I'm guessing around 100miliamp, 210 volts

If I'm missing something, feel free to make me look like an idiot. cheesey
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Xray
Fri Feb 18 2011, 06:38AM
Xray Registered Member #3429 Joined: Sun Nov 21 2010, 02:04AM
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Nah wrote ...

I can't belive that nobody has said this.

I myself think it is a modern selenium rectifier. Test the voltage drop, it should be a lot more than a SI diode.

I'm guessing around 100miliamp, 210 volts

If I'm missing something, feel free to make me look like an idiot. cheesey

Modern selenium rectifier???? Is there really such a thing? I thought selenium rectifiers went out of vogue some time in the 1950's when the silicon diode became ubiquitous,
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Nah
Sun Feb 20 2011, 12:12AM
Nah Registered Member #3567 Joined: Mon Jan 03 2011, 10:49PM
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Some equipment that are still in use use S. rectifiers, so they have them made. It's that or spending 1,000,000 to buy a new one.
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Patrick
Sun Feb 20 2011, 12:28AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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My bet would be a normal diode or SCR, long before selenium rectifier, besides could a normal modern diode replace a older selenium? Would the circuit even notice?
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Xray
Sun Feb 20 2011, 12:33AM
Xray Registered Member #3429 Joined: Sun Nov 21 2010, 02:04AM
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Patrick wrote ...

.....besides could a normal modern diode replace a older selenium? Would the circuit even notice?

Absolutely! I've replaced Seleniums years ago in old radios and TV's. Seleniums have a higher voltaqe drop than silicons, so you might want to place a low value resistor of a few ohms in series with the replacement diode in order to reduce inrush current. Other than that, there should be no problem.
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dmg
Sun Feb 20 2011, 12:37AM
dmg Registered Member #2628 Joined: Fri Jan 15 2010, 12:23AM
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Nah wrote ...

Some equipment that are still in use use S. rectifiers, so they have them made. It's that or spending 1,000,000 to buy a new one.

I agree.

I live in Canada, alberta, and where I work I got to see the insides of some of the electric trains (600VDC powered).
They indeed still use selenium rectifiers, (from the looks of it there were "taps" of sorts with leads dissapearing into the train). these where large 3" X 3" X 6" and thier fins where colored blue. they had the markings and connections which indicated a rectifier.
Hell, I even saw a mercury arc rectifier once on those triains. but these are the very old and decomisioned ones, however some of them where working in a park as an attraction. If you ever get the chance to see a mercury arc in person, it is something else and quite amazing to watch while its working, looks like some type of alien equipment.

the very new line of these trains (made by siemens) uses modern equipment however, and I didnt see any seleniums in there, just SCRs and diodes.
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