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It looks like there is a tiny little bare metal stump near that cathode wire. You can perform a mulitimeter test on that stump to see if it will behave like an SCR (testing via gate charging using the ohmeter function). If that doesnt work, or that stump isnt connected to anything, then I would belive it to be just a stud diode.
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Nah wrote ...
I can't belive that nobody has said this.
I myself think it is a modern selenium rectifier. Test the voltage drop, it should be a lot more than a SI diode.
I'm guessing around 100miliamp, 210 volts
If I'm missing something, feel free to make me look like an idiot.
Modern selenium rectifier???? Is there really such a thing? I thought selenium rectifiers went out of vogue some time in the 1950's when the silicon diode became ubiquitous,
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My bet would be a normal diode or SCR, long before selenium rectifier, besides could a normal modern diode replace a older selenium? Would the circuit even notice?
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Patrick wrote ...
.....besides could a normal modern diode replace a older selenium? Would the circuit even notice?
Absolutely! I've replaced Seleniums years ago in old radios and TV's. Seleniums have a higher voltaqe drop than silicons, so you might want to place a low value resistor of a few ohms in series with the replacement diode in order to reduce inrush current. Other than that, there should be no problem.
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Nah wrote ...
Some equipment that are still in use use S. rectifiers, so they have them made. It's that or spending 1,000,000 to buy a new one.
I agree.
I live in Canada, alberta, and where I work I got to see the insides of some of the electric trains (600VDC powered). They indeed still use selenium rectifiers, (from the looks of it there were "taps" of sorts with leads dissapearing into the train). these where large 3" X 3" X 6" and thier fins where colored blue. they had the markings and connections which indicated a rectifier. Hell, I even saw a mercury arc rectifier once on those triains. but these are the very old and decomisioned ones, however some of them where working in a park as an attraction. If you ever get the chance to see a mercury arc in person, it is something else and quite amazing to watch while its working, looks like some type of alien equipment.
the very new line of these trains (made by siemens) uses modern equipment however, and I didnt see any seleniums in there, just SCRs and diodes.
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