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Microwatt

Fri Feb 11 2011, 05:14AM

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I have seen this on patents and stuff. Seems like an interesting way to make high voltage. anybody know why it has not been implemeted in a\ny fashion?

Dr. ISOTOP

Fri Feb 11 2011, 06:57AM

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Link to the patent?

Microwatt

Fri Feb 11 2011, 07:16AM

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here

This seems like some sort of long lost technology. the article says 3000v 1uA turns into 50kv 200uA with just a spray of water. This could be scaled up to make millions of volts from our ZVS flybacks.

Turkey9

Fri Feb 11 2011, 07:41AM

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Oh look another free energy machine. It outputs over 16 times the voltage and 200 times the current input. Even if there were some static charge buildup, it would not be nearly this large. Reading the article, it seems like they are saying heat is converted to power through some strange bending of the laws of physics. Knowing how Popular Science writers take real science and distort it to seem more amazing than it is, I wouldn't be surprised if the device was originally just a setup to experiment with static charges.

P.S. I'm betting this thread will be locked by admins before long.

Ash Small

Fri Feb 11 2011, 07:57AM

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This appears to have been patented:

I've not read enough yet to really know what it is about.

EDIT: Apparently the principle is here:

EDIT 2: Patents etc. are here:

EDIT 3: Apparently it is not 'free energy' but it needs a source of heat as well. It converts the heat energy into electricity, alledgedly.

They say it can be used to convert the heat going up your chimney into electricity.

EDIT 4: I still can't see how it works, though.

QUOTE: "Will it work? â€œWeâ€™re sure of itâ€, Mark says. â€œWeâ€™re not sure of the power output, but it will be from one to 10,000 watts --- weâ€™re hoping for 10,000â€. "

hboy007

Fri Feb 11 2011, 11:07AM

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I assume you can imagine the working principle as a Van-De-Graaf generator except that the conveyor is no longer a rubber belt but a stream of droplets. The actual work is done by the compressed air. I see no free energy mumbo-jumbo in this.

Antonio

Fri Feb 11 2011, 01:45PM

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Just an electrostatic induction generator. Surely works, but with the problems of all electrostatic generators: Too small power for the size of the device, too high output voltage, and extremely high insulation required.
See this:

Adam Munich

Sat Feb 12 2011, 12:33AM

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That was really interesting. I definitely need to try this...

Edt: vidyo of one.

Xray

Sun Feb 13 2011, 02:33AM

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Microwatt wrote ...

I have seen this on patents and stuff. Seems like an interesting way to make high voltage. anybody know why it has not been implemeted in a\ny fashion?

There are much simpler and more efficient ways to generate high voltage. The article ignores the fact that it requires POWER to compress air, and it requires POWER to supply the bias voltage needed to charge the water vapor. The amount of power needed to drive this device is much more than the electrical power you can generate with it. It's not really a "long forgotten technology" but rather a laboratory experiment that wasn't worth much to anyone. That's why it was forgotten!

Microwatt

Sun Feb 13 2011, 08:20AM

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Xray wrote ...

Microwatt wrote ...

I have seen this on patents and stuff. Seems like an interesting way to make high voltage. anybody know why it has not been implemeted in a\ny fashion?

yea but after you bias the power gird you could feedback to voltage from the output back in and get increasingly high voltages. ala kelvin water dropper. i am sure that 1 million volts is easy to make with this. who wouldn't want 4 foot sparks in thier garage?

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