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Adjustable current sink for rectified mains.

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Tightmopedman9
Tue Feb 08 2011, 04:19AM Print
Tightmopedman9 Registered Member #3197 Joined: Tue Sept 14 2010, 04:56PM
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I'm looking for a good circuit that will allow me to vary the current to a flyback H-bridge from 0-5A at a constant 170V (rectified and smoothed mains). I've found a few circuits using an op-amp to a transistor, but I'm not sure if they would be able to handle the amount of power I'd like. Does anyone have a circuit they could recommend?
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Mattski
Tue Feb 08 2011, 04:58AM
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You can make a current source or a voltage source, but not both at the same time. So you have to pick either 0-5A current source OR 170V current source, but not both.

If you're trying to regulate the total power drawn by the flyback driver I think you'd be better off just reducing the duty cycle on the H-bridge rather than trying to change your power supply.
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Tightmopedman9
Tue Feb 08 2011, 06:02AM
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So you're saying that I can't have a fixed voltage with a variable current? What about the variable current with fixed voltage from lab power supplies?
I didn't even think about varying the duty cycle, that seems like a good idea. The end goal is to have some of volume control...
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Adam Munich
Tue Feb 08 2011, 01:37PM
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Seeing as the mains can supply huge amounts of power without voltage sag I'd say that regulating the voltage is kind of pointless. As for the current regulation, I think a power transistor would be the best way to go. Link2
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Steve Conner
Tue Feb 08 2011, 01:50PM
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5A at 170V is in the ballpark for an argon laser power supply. You can find schematics for those at Sam's Laser FAQ, etc.
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klugesmith
Tue Feb 08 2011, 06:05PM
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Tightmopedman9 wrote ...
So you're saying that I can't have a fixed voltage with a variable current? What about the variable current with fixed voltage from lab power supplies?
The better ones have a light that tells when you're in current regulating mode (with less than the setpoint voltage) and when you're in voltage regulating mode (with less than the setpoint current).
The transition depends on where the load I/V curve intersects the power supply I/V curve -- it would be educational to draw the curves with various load resistors instead of your H-bridge.
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Mattski
Tue Feb 08 2011, 07:56PM
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Klugesmith wrote ...
Tightmopedman9 wrote ...

So you're saying that I can't have a fixed voltage with a variable current? What about the variable current with fixed voltage from lab power supplies?
The better ones have a light that tells when you're in current regulating mode (with less than the setpoint voltage) and when you're in voltage regulating mode (with less than the setpoint current).
The transition depends on where the load I/V curve intersects the power supply I/V curve -- it would be educational to draw the curves with various load resistors instead of your H-bridge.
Assuming your load is linear like a resistor then voltage on the load is equal to current times resistance. So when you set the voltage current is set by I=V/R, or when the current limit is hit then V=I*R, so voltage must change. Considering the power level you're talking about using a linear regulator to limit the current while the H-bridge is on could be done, but it would dissipate quite a lot of heat, which is why duty cycle adjustment is nice since very little power is dissipated.
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