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Large shaded pole motor, 500w

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Frosty90
Fri Jan 21 2011, 07:05AM Print
Frosty90 Registered Member #1617 Joined: Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:31AM
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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Hi all,

I pulled this from a 'twin tub' washing machine, its certainly the biggest shaded pole motor ive seen, but then again I havnt seen that many motors....

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I pulled it appart to de-spider it, the washing machine had been sitting outdoors for quite a while. Here it is re-assembled

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The plate on the machine says this motor is rated for 500 watts!

I also found this series-DC/Universal motor in the machine, apparently 250 watts:

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This one was infested with 'white tip' spiders, the other was full of big black spiders of some sort....

How large can shaded pole motors be made before efficiency is really a problem?

Cheers,
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Steve Conner
Fri Jan 21 2011, 10:57AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Shaded pole motors are about 20% efficient.

I don't think that is a shaded pole motor. There are two sets of windings, and I don't see any shading rings.
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radiotech
Fri Jan 21 2011, 04:02PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Vienott says that shaded pole motors are made up to 1/4 HP.
The shading rings are around the smaller segments.
Pumps and fans use them because they can work over a
wide torque and speed range.
They are simple in operation, and they are the only
AC motor that cannot reverse rotation. This is an important
aspect, since loads often apply reverse torque and other motors
fail in some way and get spun up to a reverse operating speed
and just keep running backward.

What happened to the sleeving on the lead wires?

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Frosty90
Fri Jan 21 2011, 09:36PM
Frosty90 Registered Member #1617 Joined: Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:31AM
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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I don't think that is a shaded pole motor

It is, you cant see it very clearly in the photo though. The two sets of windings are connected in opposite polarity, there are four shading poles.

What happened to the sleeving on the lead wires?

Im not sure what you mean?

So Im guessing that the '500w' is the electrical consumption, so about 125w mechanical power? It seems like a pretty bad choice of motor for the application if that is the case...
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radiotech
Sat Jan 22 2011, 03:33AM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Please tell us where the power rating label was attached. Did the
shaded pole motor have a seperate nameplate, and if so what
data was on it?
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Frosty90
Sat Jan 22 2011, 07:35AM
Frosty90 Registered Member #1617 Joined: Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:31AM
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Posts: 139
Please tell us where the power rating label was attached. Did the
shaded pole motor have a seperate nameplate, and if so what
data was on it?

Ahh no sorry I think Ive confused you. No the motor doesnt have a nameplate, the washing machine does, but it gives a power consumption for both motors seperately: it says the 'wash motor' (the shaded pole) is 500w. This would be power consumption not mechanical output power!
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