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HV Enthusiast
Thu Feb 16 2006, 01:55AM Print
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Welcome to the Electrical Quizzes thread.

RULES:

1. Anyone may post a quiz, however, only one (1) quiz may be active at a time.

2. All posts must stay on topic - any offtopic posts or one line comments will be deleted.

3. Keep it fair for everyone. Please do not cheat by searching for the quiz question on the internet. Do your own work and if you have already seen a quiz that is posted here and know the answer, please give others a chance. I really can't enforce this, so you are basically on the honor system here.

4. Quizzes should be related to electrical circuits or electrical theory.

5. You may use the internet to research equations and theory however to help you solve a problem.

Thanks and enjoy!



Can you figure out whats in the box???

The meters are old fashioned analog meters and the black box does not dissipate any heat.

1140054922 15 FT0 Quiz Blackbox
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Part Scavenger
Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:19AM
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It's empty? The voltage drop across the 1 ohm would be .5V, so the voltage drop across the meter would be .5V.

EDIT=> Another thought. It could be a capacitor. Once it fills up, it'd never dissipate any heat and the volt drop would still be .5 across the meter.
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HV Enthusiast
Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:35AM
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Part Scavenger wrote ...

It's empty? The voltage drop across the 1 ohm would be .5V, so the voltage drop across the meter would be .5V.

EDIT=> Another thought. It could be a capacitor. Once it fills up, it'd never dissipate any heat and the volt drop would still be .5 across the meter.

Not correct. Remember that virtually no current flows through these type of analog voltage meters, therefore, the 0.5A of current has to flow through the black box.
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Well, it would appear to be a 1ohm resistor, but that would be too easy (and be disapating a 1/2 watt of heat...)...

If the box is dissipating NO heat, then it must be some sort of superconductor...

If ti is dissipating almost no heat, my guess would be a low voltage oscillator that shorts the output 1/2 of the time...
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Part Scavenger
Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:42AM
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Pooh. I knew it couldn't be that easy.

EDIT=> It can't be a supercondutor can it? It has an impedance of 1ohm. What would use up .25W without dissipating heat? But come to think of it, you might be on the right track with the 1/2 time thing. If it's analog, they wouldn't change fast enough to see it.
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Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:44AM
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wrote ...

If ti is dissipating almost no heat, my guess would be a low voltage oscillator that shorts the output 1/2 of the time...

Congrats! You got it. The answer is a switch operating at 50% duty cycle which is basically what you said. Switched fast enough, the analog voltage meter will not respond quick enough and measure just the averaged voltage which would be 0.5V.

Good job!
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Part Scavenger
Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:46AM
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Give us another! cheesey
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HV Enthusiast
Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:49AM
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Here we go . . .

Here we have a flip-flop. What is the output waveform???
The bottom input is the clock input for those who don't know.

Enjoy!
1140058152 15 FT1067 Quiz 02
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Part Scavenger
Thu Feb 16 2006, 03:00AM
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Something close to a 49Khz square wave?

Edit=> No, wait. it'd always be on.
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Liam
Thu Feb 16 2006, 03:09AM
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Dan, is the duty cycle 50% on both square waves? Because if it is, it seems rather easy. Whenever the clock input is high and the D is high as well, the output would change. Just figure out how often 49 KHz and 100 KHz have a beat, right?
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