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ubuntupokemoninc
Wed Jan 05 2011, 02:05AM Print
ubuntupokemoninc Banned on 1/22/2011 for repeated rule violations after multiple warnings.
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I am making a new power supply for my zvs, because i'm sick of the tiny amount of ripple from my old supply, i was gonna put 4 computer supplies in series to get 48 vdc, but i got 3 supplies wired up, and 1 keeps shutting off when its hooked up to he other supplies, but it works fine when its wired alone, and my 4th supply has no green wire to turn it on, so witch wire do i use?

I hope you can understand what I'm saying, especially with the n00bie question i should know this! confused
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pauleddy
Wed Jan 05 2011, 02:14AM
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for the one that turns off, you are trippin the short protection, some how your drawing too much power or over volting it. for the one with no gren wire tap groun and tap each none ground (black) pin in till the fan comes on.
hope this helps
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ubuntupokemoninc
Wed Jan 05 2011, 02:33AM
ubuntupokemoninc Banned on 1/22/2011 for repeated rule violations after multiple warnings.
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so i should find a different supply for the 1 that is shutting off? thanks cheesey
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Crunchy Frog
Wed Jan 05 2011, 02:50AM
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The black wires on these supplies (at least the one next to me) are connected to ground. This is attached to both the metal case as well as the 3rd prong on the outlet.

What this means is when you put the supplies in series, you are shorting out all but one of them. As these supplies are not an isolated design, there is really no safe way to do what you're trying to do.
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Th3_uN1Qu3
Wed Jan 05 2011, 08:14PM
Th3_uN1Qu3 Registered Member #2614 Joined: Sat Jan 09 2010, 08:57AM
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Crunchy Frog wrote ...
As these supplies are not an isolated design, there is really no safe way to do what you're trying to do.

Not mentioning you could just hack ONE of them and get 48 volts from it.
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ubuntupokemoninc
Wed Jan 05 2011, 09:48PM
ubuntupokemoninc Banned on 1/22/2011 for repeated rule violations after multiple warnings.
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And dc power supplies are sooooooo expensive!
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cjk2
Thu Jan 06 2011, 04:33AM
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Many possible problems. The power supplies need to have their outputs float from the case or you will short circuit the "top" ones through the mains ground. Also, you may need reverse current protection diodes on the outputs of the supplies so you are not able to force current the wrong way through them. It will also probably be important to turn everything on at the same time or "from the bottom of the stack up".

Summary: isolate the secondary side from the case on all but the bottom power supply. Use a many contact switch or several optoisolators to turn all the supplies on at the same time.
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Arcstarter
Thu Jan 06 2011, 05:57AM
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If i where you, i would do what CJK2 said.
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ubuntupokemoninc
Thu Jan 06 2011, 04:00PM
ubuntupokemoninc Banned on 1/22/2011 for repeated rule violations after multiple warnings.
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wow thanks, i'll try that amazed
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Steve Conner
Thu Jan 06 2011, 04:04PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Here's a guide to stacking computer power supplies, it's easy and fun smile Link2
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