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Avi
Thu Dec 23 2010, 05:19PM Print
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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What are some methods to switch 240v mains to a ~350ma constant current regulator activated by opening a cupboard door?
The method should be both safe and comply with electrical wiring safety regulations.
Running mains (even current limited) to a reed switch to drive a triac is probably not considered safe. Is anyone aware of any other approaches preferably not involving separate batteries, which need to be replaced, or leak, over time.
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Wolfram
Thu Dec 23 2010, 05:44PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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What about a small mains transformer to power a circuit where the door switch turns on the LED in a triac-output optocoupler?
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Avi
Thu Dec 23 2010, 05:50PM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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I'm not sure if that is any more/less efficient then leaving the mains side of the regulator always on, now that i think about it, i don't even know if its safe to switch its low voltage side, its some switch mode design, i don't have the schematic.
But yes, that is a usable idea, so thanks so far.
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Coronafix
Thu Dec 23 2010, 07:49PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
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There must be a mains rated momentary switch out there. Lights in pantries is pretty standard now, someone like Arlec must have something to do the job.
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Dr. Slack
Thu Dec 23 2010, 08:23PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Have you ever pulled a microwave oven apart to to the transformer, capacitor, magnetron etc? There are at least two, sometimes half a dozen mains-rated microswitches in there as well for things like door interlock. I've got one on my garage door, mounted inside a tiny plastic project box, which makes it double insulated. It's actuated by a cam made from a couple of bits of Lego (tm) Technik fastened together with polystyrene modelling glue.
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radiotech
Thu Dec 23 2010, 08:32PM
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A 1/3 amp constant current regulator is just asking
for trouble. What voltage imits have you placed on this device?
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Avi
Fri Dec 24 2010, 04:25PM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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as for running mains wires up to a door switch, which is different than a 100% boxed sealed product, does anyone know if there are any regulations against this?

radiotech wrote ...

A 1/3 amp constant current regulator is just asking
for trouble.
What, why? the board was designed to do this, or so it claims.
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Adam Munich
Fri Dec 24 2010, 04:44PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Link2

That is all.
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Avi
Sat Dec 25 2010, 04:55AM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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Grenadier, this thread is not about the switching 'circuit', its about that these circuits need power (even if it a low voltage) to be able to apply a voltage or current to them to trigger it.
conclusions so far:
A separate constantly running transformer that outputs a low voltage
running mains cord directly to the door switch and no opinions yet of if that meets/doesn't meet regulations?
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Adam Munich
Sat Dec 25 2010, 04:58AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Normally closed microswitch? There's nothing wrong with switching the mains.
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