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Adam Munich
Thu Dec 09 2010, 05:15AM Print
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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I as thinking that MOV's or avalanche diodes would make good "spark gaps" for a marx generator. The marx circuit could work at much lower voltages too since it doesn't require an air gap. A 250V/stage marx could even be made.

Seems like a good ay to easily step up some dc voltage. Avalanche diodes may be the best option though.
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Turkey9
Thu Dec 09 2010, 05:48AM
Turkey9 Registered Member #1451 Joined: Wed Apr 23 2008, 03:48AM
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I bet you could use solid state switches for that matter. I don't know how IGBTs behave in series but it might be possible!
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klugesmith
Thu Dec 09 2010, 06:52AM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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Problem with MOVs and avalanche diodes is that they don't switch to an ON state with very small voltage drop.
For low voltage spark gaps I think you could do well with gas tube surge arresters, which come in breakdown voltages as low as 90 V.
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If you made a Marx stack out of them, how would you measure the erected voltage?
I could send you some GTSA's (about 150V IIRC) if you want to try it.
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Luca
Thu Dec 09 2010, 10:00AM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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Klugesmith wrote ...

Problem with MOVs and avalanche diodes is that they don't switch to an ON state with very small voltage drop.

I agree. MOVs are "like" zeners, they maintain the clamping voltrage accross their terminals, they do not switch to a "on" state.

You need something like a SIDAC

Regards

Luca
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Pinky's Brain
Thu Dec 09 2010, 02:29PM
Pinky's Brain Registered Member #2901 Joined: Thu Jun 03 2010, 01:25PM
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MOVs/Avalanche diodes are clamps. A sparkgap is a crowbar. There are solid state crowbar devices, they are usually self triggered thyristors ... but thyristors are rather slow. In fact everything semiconductor is either slow or low current or both compared to spark gaps.

Avalanche transistors are the only commonly available silicon devices which can get both decent speed (ns) and high current at a reasonable cost ... but they are finnicky. Another alternative are magnetic switches, someone in a recent thread had done this, although you need quite a hefty chunk of ferrite for high power.
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