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FBT driver "native" circuit?

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HVPaul
Mon Nov 08 2010, 08:25PM Print
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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Has anyone tried building a circuit for driving FBT within spec utilizing the original primaries? Sure output wouldn't be as beefy but stability must be useful for some projects?
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Adam Munich
Mon Nov 08 2010, 09:39PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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I'm sure it could be done with a 555 timer and an IRFP460. I say the IRFP460 since it's a 400V FET and the FBTs are usually run at 100 something volts on the boards.

It's much simpler to just wind your own primary if you can because that way the FBT will work better on a lower voltage. There are circuits out there that use the internal primary, but as you said, there isn't much power to be had.
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Proud Mary
Mon Nov 08 2010, 10:29PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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HVPaul wrote ...

Has anyone tried building a circuit for driving FBT within spec utilizing the original primaries? Sure output wouldn't be as beefy but stability must be useful for some projects?

That's the only approach I've ever used. When I take the trouble to construct something, I want it to last, and hopefully be better than something you could buy to do the same job, or there's no real point in making it. I don't have the resources in either time or money to commit to something that's poorly designed from the outset and doesn't work properly.
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Antonio
Mon Nov 08 2010, 11:50PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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I made several, always using the original primary coil. In some I used also the switching power supply taken from the same board, that already produces the right voltage. In one I took out of a monitor board the complete power supply and the flyback drive circuit.
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Sulaiman
Tue Nov 09 2010, 12:40AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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The voltage rating of an IRFP460 is insufficient for 'native' mode
for full performance a 1500V transistor is a common HOT rating, 1200V is ok.
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Arcstarter
Tue Nov 09 2010, 12:44AM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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I have done this with that single transistor driver... It was a long time back... I used another winding for feedback. I got muuuuch better performance than with an external primary. Not sure why, maybe better coupling a more efficient number of windings.
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HVPaul
Tue Nov 09 2010, 03:09PM
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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Would someone kindly post such a plan?
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