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How do i use Parallax Serial Terminal ?

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Patrick
Mon Sept 03 2012, 11:16PM Print
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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im getting nothing, and ive followed the directions and advice from a tutorial not associated with parallax that has high positive feedback.

i get a pic like this :
1346714211 2431 FT0 Cmu


my cord looks like this:

Laptop -> USB - serial cable -> serial connector -> embedded device PCB.

from the serial to embedded device looks like this:

LAptop: *************************** Device:
Pin2 Comp Recieve ......= blue wire ------- TXO <- Note it could be a D or an O, I cant tell.
Pin3 Comp Transmit ....= White wire ------ RXI <- Note its not labled RXD
Pin4 Comp Ready ........= Yellow wire ----- DTR
Pin5 Ground ...............= Black (GND) ---- GND

* i wonder if pins 2 and 3 are reversed ?
should i also attach the ground to the shield ? both should be close to zero volts, or will that let noise in ?



1346716168 2431 FT1630 Sam 0175cmucable

Someone check the cable to make sure i didnt botch it:
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Steve Conner
Tue Sept 04 2012, 07:10AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Split the problem in half. Connect pins 2 and 3 together on the laptop side, check that everything you type is echoed back on the screen.
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Shrad
Tue Sept 04 2012, 08:45AM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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check if your USB to serial converter is 3.3V or 5V signal level

every basic USB to serial convertre is 3.3V nowadays, which is not suitable for microcontroller use if it is not specifically a 3.3V serial enabled device

you either have to make a level shifter or use a 5V serial converter
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Patrick
Tue Sept 04 2012, 03:43PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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Shrad wrote ...

check if your USB to serial converter is 3.3V or 5V signal level

every basic USB to serial convertre is 3.3V nowadays, which is not suitable for microcontroller use if it is not specifically a 3.3V serial enabled device

you either have to make a level shifter or use a 5V serial converter
my serial converter puts out -8, 0 and 8 volts apparently, my parallax device is 3.3 and 5 volt capable on its serial pins.
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Shrad
Wed Sept 05 2012, 07:27AM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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you can always bridge TXD and RXD on your parallax and send a hex value to see if you have an echo

normally nothing is needed but RXD,TXD and GND
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Steve Conner
Wed Sept 05 2012, 07:55AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Ah, there's your problem, you are feeding RS232 levels into a TTL port on a microcontroller. IIRC, the RS232 level shifter chip also inverts the polarity of the signal, so it won't work. You need to either hack into the USB-to-serial dongle and bypass the level shifter, or shift the levels back to TTL using a MAX232 or similar chip.
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Patrick
Wed Sept 05 2012, 04:41PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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Steve Conner wrote ...

Ah, there's your problem, you are feeding RS232 levels into a TTL port on a microcontroller. IIRC, the RS232 level shifter chip also inverts the polarity of the signal, so it won't work. You need to either hack into the USB-to-serial dongle and bypass the level shifter, or shift the levels back to TTL using a MAX232 or similar chip.
i realize now i need this circuit: Link2




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Shrad
Wed Sept 05 2012, 07:46PM
Shrad Registered Member #3215 Joined: Sun Sept 19 2010, 08:42PM
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get a max232 from maxim for free, they ship samples
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