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Frankenstein virus "builds itself by pilfering code"

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Conundrum
Wed Aug 22 2012, 09:24PM Print
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Link2

Hah, I predicted this way back in 1998.
My version of this was a hypothetical program which was essentially a list of start and stop points with common Windows 98SE files and a list of "code inversions" which was able to bit juggle the assembled code until it matched the original compressed file.

Never attempted to write such a beast but its interesting to see that someone else has.
It does raise an interesting ethical question, in that basic viruses and useful programs such as data manipulation and processing share several common features so to not teach how viruses and malware work is to cripple the knowledge base and make it more likely that future malware writers will dig up the forgotten "old" methods and recycle them.

In this case, it is not the knowledge itself that is the issue, it is how the knowledge is used.

In fact, I once had my Acorn screen editing code pilfered by someone and converted into malware tongue

Related to this is the recent discovery of a vulnerability in the Bluetooth headset protocol allowing for data injection using the Vol +/- buttons and a piece of software introduced by other means to transcribe this into executable code.
Seems that this particular vuln has never been exploited because it was considered too much effort.

-A
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Carbon_Rod
Thu Aug 23 2012, 03:51AM
Carbon_Rod Registered Member #65 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 06:43AM
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There are many programs that can do this, as most overflow sled shims could be considered identical in description. i.e. they re-purpose the host system resources to deliver hostile programs. This is why Symantec products are essentially useless since around 2003, and active hashing of resident programs became "firewall" security products.

Perhaps these are the pair that wrote Flame... as it was signed with Microsoft's private key, used Microsoft's "update services" to install malware, and hooked the kernel to attack other hosts using Microsoft's LAN messaging services.

Note the coming UEFI secure boot key based system will essentially make OEM signed root-kits impossible to remove even if detected. Sony, Microsoft, HP, and Apple have all distributed OEM Trojans in their product lines, and only stopped when publicly confronted by lawyers trying to sue them.

Yawn...
IIRC, this forum has rules about people talking about breaking other peoples toys...
I guess the policy is philosophically based on how manure attracts flies...

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Conundrum
Sat Aug 25 2012, 08:17AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Sharing a link to an existing page discussing the security implications of a given virus comes under "public information" IMHO.

-A
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