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Myke
Mon Feb 19 2007, 08:27PM Print
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Hi I’m new here and I built a ZVS flyback transformer driver. I was wondering if there is anything I can do to make it better besides getting better MOSFETs.
1171916876 540 FT0 Img 1901
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cjk2
Mon Feb 19 2007, 08:46PM
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IRF740 MOSFET's are 400v, .55ohm devices. If you use something with a higher voltage rating, like 600v, you can use a higher input voltage. Using a device with a lower on resistance will lower the amount of power lost in the MOSFET's, and allow you to push more current before the transistors overheat. Also, use a cap that's bigger than .33uf. Try something like 1uf. How many volts are you currently putting into your driver? What kind of output length are you getting? A pic of your entire setup, including flyback, and primary would be useful. If you have any more questions, just ask, I'd be happy to help.
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Dr. Dark Current
Mon Feb 19 2007, 09:13PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Make your leads short and thick- especially those from fets to the resonant cap and from the cap to the primary. Use a thick wire for the primary to avoid overheating. Use a high quality resonant capacitor (PP type or "X2" type found in power supplies works very well). For higher power use better fets, such as the IRFP250.
Hope this helps
cjk2 wrote ...

Edit: this might help. http://rfhv.com/flyback.htm
w00t, that is some big-ass flyback, I always wanted one of those amazed
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Myke
Mon Feb 19 2007, 10:00PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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I used IRF740 MOSFETs because I get them for $1 each (I think).

There are 2 caps but one is mostly out of the picture.

I’ve put in 24V a couple of times but mostly I put in 12V.

Oh by the way I get 6 cm arcs at 24V, is this good?
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Marko
Mon Feb 19 2007, 10:07PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Oh by the way I get 6 cm arcs at 24V, is this good?

6 cm is pretty good for the voltage. You can generally increase output power at lower voltages by decreasing number of primary turns and increasing the tank capacitor.

ALso, your mosfets are a bit of too high voltage rating and too high Rds ON. Some 100-200 FET's are most used, IRFP250 is one of favorites. IGBT's also work well.



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Myke
Tue Feb 20 2007, 02:01AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Too bad my flyback died by arcing from one pin to the other with no output at all. frown But what's strange is it only arcs from pin to pin when the HV output is shorted to the ground.

What should I do with the other outputs on the working flybacks?

About what AWG should I use from the fets to the caps?

When I was building it I tried to keep the tips from here in mind.
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Myke
Fri Feb 23 2007, 06:31AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Here is a pic of my flyback that died due to arcing

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If you number the pins from left to right, 2 arcs to 3 and 3 sometimes arcs to 4. 10 is GND.

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Here is my entire setup.
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More pics of driver
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1172212256 540 FT20942 Img 1916
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Feb 23 2007, 01:56PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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If you get arcing on the flyback's base, check for all "groups of pins" (pins that are electrically connected together), and then ground each "group" once. (it doesn't matter which pin in each "group" do you ground)
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Myke
Fri Feb 23 2007, 04:37PM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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Is it ok that it hapens at 12V because I think it should only do it at 24V or higher? Is the flyback dead because it didn't use to do that before?
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Feb 23 2007, 05:52PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Myke wrote ...

Is it ok that it hapens at 12V because I think it should only do it at 24V or higher? Is the flyback dead because it didn't use to do that before?
If it didn't do that before, and you have no output at all (as you said previously), then yes, it's probably dead (probably from internal insulation breakdown)
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