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aonomus
Thu Feb 12 2009, 04:22AM
aonomus Registered Member #1497 Joined: Thu May 22 2008, 05:24AM
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The intended application is for monitoring my capacitor bank's current waveform, the coil itself gives dI/dt, the change in current over time, and the integrator is just a couple of opamps, some features are just to play around with to see if its useful at all.

I just completed the integrator, although I have a few wires to hook up, it looks promising. In a few days I will have the time to completely wire the input/output connectors and test the integrator. The waveforms you see above are dI/dt, I'll try to get a captured waveform soon, and only calibration is left to finish.

Another bonus is that it would appear that the output is reduced in voltage, I may have to add a separate gain stage with a 1x, 10x, 100x selection switch just to get the desired amplitude...
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rp181
Thu Feb 12 2009, 04:55AM
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On my PC, The drop is low enough that the time has to be on the lowest setting on the dial, and sometimes lower. I don't think a gain stage is necessary.
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ungkuiskandar
Mon Apr 27 2009, 08:25PM
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hei aonomus, i have recently PMed you. not sure if you have receive it or not, but is it possible if i could contact you ?
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teravolt
Tue Apr 28 2009, 04:14AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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a lot of thease ciols are pure inductance and may have there own resonant frequencies. if you use a core and spread the windings apart and add a parallel noninductive resistor your response will be more flat. the core bandwidth will detrmin the frequency response. person probes are made this way I believe
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ungkuiskandar
Thu Apr 30 2009, 12:49AM
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hey aenomous, about the schematic diagram, how do u actually plan it? like im planning to use my coil just for instrumentation. perhaps having a frequency of 1kHz is enough.

so do u think my schematic diagram will be as complicated as yours?
if i were to use 741 op amp model, could i just use 2 resistors r1,and r2, and a capacitor c1,

with the capacitor and r2 feeded back to the opamp and r1 is in series with the input?
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ungkuiskandar
Thu Apr 30 2009, 04:47PM
ungkuiskandar Registered Member #2098 Joined: Mon Apr 27 2009, 04:49PM
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hi guys. Is it possible if any of u could give me advice online? I have built my own rogowski coil using a 75 ohms co-axial cable about a meter long.

I have wind it up using a wire and turn in 282 times around the coil. I plan to use it for instrumentation purposes.

The voltage range that i have decided is = 1mV - 10V
and operating current range to be = 1mA - 1A.
the frequency range should be about = 1Hz - 1kHz

i have then make my own calculations, to get the integrator value, which is

Calculations
E = H di/dt
H= munaught N A
N= 1762.5 turns/m
Radius of the coil = 2 x 10-3
Cross sectional Area A = Pi r^2 = 1.26 x 10^-5
Mu naught = 4 pi x 10^-7
So H = 27.9 nVs/A --------- coil sensitivity

Say Vout = 10 V, I = 1 A

then

Vout = IH/CR
CR = 27.9/10 = 2.79
If R = 10000 ohms, then C = 2.79/10000 = 0.000279 F = 279 x 10^-6 Farad

does that makes any sense ?

also yesterday i tried my soundcard as an integrator to produce waveform using soundcard as a DSO. I used winscope and online oszilloscope but to no avail. I couldnt get it to work.

I have got pictures of my coil and everything. If any of u r interested i could email it to you, then maybe u could help me figure out what went wrong.
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