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Alex Smith
Thu Nov 11 2010, 10:58PM
Alex Smith Registered Member #3258 Joined: Wed Sept 29 2010, 06:25PM
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Navrit - Just so you know that wire is really, really hard to wind. I just used exactly the same one and wound it round a allen key of the same diameter - i have a feeling it will crush any plastic tube you wind it round.
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Navrit Bal
Thu Nov 11 2010, 11:05PM
Navrit Bal Registered Member #3323 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 03:19PM
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Alex, I know what you mean, I was trying to bend the wire a few days ago and it really was hard, i think you could solve the plastic crushing problem by temporarily inserting a metal rod and then wrapping it around. Which size did you find best for your wire? Just so you know, I'm doing this for my A level Extended Project. Are you doing it for an Extended Project as well?
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Alex Smith
Thu Nov 11 2010, 11:15PM
Alex Smith Registered Member #3258 Joined: Wed Sept 29 2010, 06:25PM
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Alex Smith wrote ...

...and wound it round a allen key of the same diameter...
;)

Nope this is for my A2 coursework actually, I didnt really have time to do an EP (and my college does its own version which dosent count as an AS - long story). Im using a 5mm diameter ink cartridge from a pilot g1 pen or something to that effect, i reckon it'll be a good fit for nails.

Basically when winding i used and allen key (with a 90 degree bend) and started by doing a couple a turns. Put the first bit of excess across the perpendicular part of the allen key so that the coil dosent slip when you wind. Then hold the reel along way away from the allen key and wind tight in a sort of pedalling motion with your hands. If this makes no sense I completely understand. But in general just GO SLOW! once your bent it, it really is difficult to alter it again.

Voila:


1289517339 3258 FT99411 E1

1289517339 3258 FT99411 E3
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Navrit Bal
Thu Nov 11 2010, 11:32PM
Navrit Bal Registered Member #3323 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 03:19PM
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I didn't think coursework could ever be that good cheesey

I think I just about understand what you are suggesting, as in the whole pedalling motion thing. i think I'll find a plastic tube, then put an allen key (for example) inside
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Navrit Bal
Wed Nov 17 2010, 06:58PM
Navrit Bal Registered Member #3323 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 03:19PM
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I know I have kind of already said this before, but I am going to try and make an aluminium 'V shaped' mechanical switch, I would use copper, but it really is too expensive, and I can't obtain the datasheet for my SCRs, even from the company who made them... so I'm not risking them all blowing up in my face cheesey

The limit for the height of the switch will be determined by my DT departments capabilities, since aluminium is relatively soft, I hope it isn't too much of a problem. Alternatively I could go for a more scrap based approach and get 3 aluminium blocks that overall have 3 slots.

Any suggestions/help ?
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Pinky's Brain
Wed Nov 17 2010, 07:44PM
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That ghetto diode seems a recipe for disaster, unless your plan is to burn half until only well matched diodes remain ... most modules can handle that surge current outright. Or if it has to be cheap at least use some P600x or 10Axx diodes.
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Navrit Bal
Wed Nov 17 2010, 07:55PM
Navrit Bal Registered Member #3323 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 03:19PM
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Which diode are you talking about? Is it the array of 51 1N007 diodes?
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Pinky's Brain
Wed Nov 17 2010, 08:23PM
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Ya :)

Current sharing in parallel diodes isn't generally ideal.
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Navrit Bal
Wed Nov 17 2010, 09:29PM
Navrit Bal Registered Member #3323 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 03:19PM
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Is there any way to make the current sharing more ideal? Isn't one way to add equal value resistors to one side of each diode and solder all of them to one point, that point is then the contact point. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if you do it would be nice if you explain in detail cheesey
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Pinky's Brain
Wed Nov 17 2010, 11:32PM
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A ~0.1 ohm series resistor per diode would ensure static current sharing, but not dynamic ... but that's probably not important here since dV/dt is relatively low.
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