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Frequency, design and the effect on the streamers?

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HM_Murdock
Tue Sept 28 2010, 10:33PM Print
HM_Murdock Registered Member #3075 Joined: Fri Aug 06 2010, 02:44PM
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As I contemplate a new mini coil, I am wondering about frequency in the design...

Most specifically, when designing a low power NST driven SGTC (say, 3500V-7500V, 30mA), is there a target range of frequency for the secondary that will perform "better" than others with longer and stronger streamers (all other things being equal and tuned respectively)?

I have also seen mention in searches here about folks seeing more sword-like streamers above 500KHz, and more branching at lower frequencies...which ultimately winds up being longer, and is there a range which optimally encourages one type or the other?

Anyone have info on this subject?
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ScotchTapeLord
Wed Sept 29 2010, 12:12AM
ScotchTapeLord Registered Member #1875 Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
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They say that somewhere between 300 and 400 kHz lay the magic frequency for "swords," but usually that's in reference to solid state or vacuum tube coils, so I'm not sure if a conventional NST-driven SGTC RF envelope's highly disrupted nature will apply to it.

Steve Ward and his quasi-cw drsstc running at 350kHz:

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HM_Murdock
Fri Oct 01 2010, 01:11PM
HM_Murdock Registered Member #3075 Joined: Fri Aug 06 2010, 02:44PM
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My goal is to find whether or not there is a "better" frequency for a given power range/coil size when going for certain characteristics.

Let's say I want thick, branching streamers that go as long as possible (as opposed to swords), is there a way to determine the best frequency range for that, or is it really just a matter of tuning?

anyone played with this on a SGTC?
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Oct 01 2010, 04:27PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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I'd say that generally lower frequency produces longer but less hot streamers for the same power, but from my experience a too low frequency with not enough power results in less "concentrated" more branchy streamers which more resemble a brush discharge.
But then I mostly play with continuous wave coils (SSTC/VTTC)...
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