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Using 150Mbps ''digital isolators'' in isolated gate drivers?

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Marko
Sat Sept 11 2010, 01:59PM Print
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Hi guys,

I wondered if I could use some of these for a high frequency (>5Mhz) isolated gate drive for a class DE bridge.
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Their response time seems sufficient, but since they rely on capacitive coupling, I'm afraid that high-frequency voltage that will be present across them in this use could disrupt them. Anyone used them before?

I need precision deadtime control and ferritre transformers aren't too good for it at frequencies as high.

Marko
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william L
Sat Sept 11 2010, 08:27PM
william L Registered Member #3093 Joined: Mon Aug 09 2010, 11:40PM
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well, it appears that they can only output 4ma of current. These don't seem sufficient for gate drive in my opinion,
but it would be a cool idea
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Sat Sept 11 2010, 08:37PM
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I would assume you were planning to have some additional gate drivers on the output...

You should be ok, they have it set up as a balanced signal which blocks out most of the noise, and it is rated to stand 25Kv/us common mode dv/dt.
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Marko
Sat Sept 11 2010, 09:34PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Yeah, to clarify - the ''gate driver'' in this case is a whole circuit - I'll use IXDD414's as power drive devices, and isolators to just supply the signal to them.

Another pet nuisance that seems to be present with nearly all high speed couplers (opto and non opto) is that in absence of primary side supply / logic low / led off they all seem to drive their output high. Since I don't want my bridge to self destruct if the input is left hanging, I need to invert the output some way... this adds additional delay, as one more inverter will also be required on primary side. I'm not sure of a best way to do it either - a BS170 mosfet with a pullup, a 74HC04/14, or some picogate device? I generally dislike the amount of delay introduced by typically used logic inverters.

Marko
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Dr. Dark Current
Sat Sept 11 2010, 09:45PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Or you can use the inverting gate driver (UCC37321/TC4451 etc.)
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william L
Sun Sept 12 2010, 12:40AM
william L Registered Member #3093 Joined: Mon Aug 09 2010, 11:40PM
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Marko wrote ...

Yeah, to clarify - the ''gate driver'' in this case is a whole circuit - I'll use IXDD414's as power drive devices, and isolators to just supply the signal to them.

Another pet nuisance that seems to be present with nearly all high speed couplers (opto and non opto) is that in absence of primary side supply / logic low / led off they all seem to drive their output high. Since I don't want my bridge to self destruct if the input is left hanging, I need to invert the output some way... this adds additional delay, as one more inverter will also be required on primary side. I'm not sure of a best way to do it either - a BS170 mosfet with a pullup, a 74HC04/14, or some picogate device? I generally dislike the amount of delay introduced by typically used logic inverters.

Marko
oh. makes more sense. it looks like those should work to send a signal to the drivers then.
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