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Marko
Fri Aug 27 2010, 10:57PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Hi guys,

Sorry if it's a disappointment - but I've found most of those 'giant' DC flybacks to contain built-in capacitors, and just tend to produce high-current banging arcs which eventually damage or destroy them. If you were to draw arcs from them, you will need to put a high voltage and wattage resistor in series with output tolimit the current - which I never found to be practical.

The best DC flybacks are those that resemble just a cylinder around the core without much additional 'growths' on the side.

Regarding the arcing pins - try turning the focus pots if they are present, this helped one of my flybacks. Else, cut off the problematic pins and drill them down 2 to 3 mm, polish off all dirt and possible carbon residue and pour in some epoxy or polyester resin to seal. I wouldn't rely on hot glue for this.

Marko
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Adam Munich
Fri Aug 27 2010, 11:37PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Most dc flybacks contain caps, regardless of the size. They all usually have a voltage multiplier, and thus a cap.
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Plasmana
Sat Aug 28 2010, 09:28AM
Plasmana Registered Member #3108 Joined: Thu Aug 12 2010, 05:37PM
Location: Worthing, England
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I have one of those giant flybacks with an internal capacitor. The banging sparks are cool, but now that Marko says it will eventually self-destruct. They would probably be more suitable for charging HV caps and used in marx generators?

Video of my giant flyback making sparks cheesey Link2
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Wolfram
Sun Aug 29 2010, 08:46AM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
Location: Norway
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Grenadier wrote ...

Most dc flybacks contain caps, regardless of the size. They all usually have a voltage multiplier, and thus a cap.

This is not correct. Most of the ones usually used in CRT TVs do not have internal caps.


Anders M.
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Proud Mary
Sun Aug 29 2010, 09:52AM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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We could look it up its data sheet in HR Diemen if you can find all the number groups on it.
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Adam Munich
Sun Aug 29 2010, 02:34PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Both are unmarked. :/
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Adam Munich
Sat Oct 09 2010, 08:57PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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I took apart a third rear projection TV today. Gotta love craigslist. After playing with a giant frensel for the first time in a month (broke my last one after one day of fun), I took parts off the board. Here's what I found.

A superflyback with the same size coil as the others, but with seperate caps. Also like the others the focus control is separate. There isn't really any growths from this flyback, and I'm not even sure if the diode is built in. It may be built into the capacitor block.


1286657817 2893 FT93912 Dsc06246


Numbers on these ones!
Flyback = KFT7AA334F1
Capacitors = KFT7CP336F
Focus = TNXB003

I also got a bunch of power resistors and heatsinks out of it, as well as a can of the clearest mineral oil I've ever [not]seen.


1286657817 2893 FT93912 Dsc06248


^^ It's full
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Antonio
Sun Oct 10 2010, 02:51AM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
Location: Brazil
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With some care you can open the case that contains the capacitor, the potentiometers, bleeder resistor, etc., and remove them. In at least some flybacks these components are not embedded in insulating material.
Link2
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Adam Munich
Sun Oct 10 2010, 03:17AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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These look completely potted in so I'm not going to even try to attempt that. The price was right (free) so I don't mind if I burn out the cap'd ones.

The parts for my ZVS should be here monday so it won't be too long until I fire up these bad boys. Any idea what I can do with the hyperclear mineral oil?
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Ken M.
Sun Oct 10 2010, 05:10AM
Ken M. Registered Member #618 Joined: Sat Mar 31 2007, 04:15AM
Location: Us-Great Lakes
Posts: 628
Booze caps, oil soaked transformer, excuse me mineral oil is improper those kind of duties, they were the first to come to mind and I don't think I've ever used mineral oil, and definitely not for electronics stuff.
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