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Nicko
Thu Jul 29 2010, 07:27PM Print
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
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...why? I know they were used in old hard drives... but why?

I'm having a sort through several cubic metres of stuff in my loft, and found a bunch of small steppers with these specs...

Why 0.882 degrees/step?

Cheers
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radiotech
Thu Jul 29 2010, 09:17PM
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Bah! Kenjo, Niinuma. Stepping motors and their microprocessor
controls P96, Clarendon Press (Oxford) 1983 could unwravel the poles/phases ... take one apart and see if there are 34 teeth.
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Nicko
Thu Jul 29 2010, 09:30PM
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
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radiotech wrote ...

Bah! Kenjo, Niinuma. Stepping motors and their microprocessor
controls P96, Clarendon Press (Oxford) 1983 could unwravel the poles/phases ... take one apart and see if there are 34 teeth.
That's still 408 steps for almost 360 degress. But not exact.

But why the odd numbers?
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Bjørn
Thu Jul 29 2010, 10:49PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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I use one of those to fine adjust my frequency generator. Just add two comparators/op-amps and it will generate a clean signal no matter how slow you turn it. A rotary encoder of similar quality will cost a fortune and easily be the most expensive part in a project.

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Conundrum
Thu Jul 29 2010, 10:57PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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i have one of those too, removed from a full height HDD.
seems that bjorn has found a use for them that the manufacturers never intended!

Has anyone had any luck microstepping these? as i am not sure what the rated current is on mine..
-A
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lightlinked
Thu Jul 29 2010, 10:57PM
lightlinked Registered Member #2087 Joined: Tue Apr 21 2009, 08:32AM
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stepper motor as an encoder? that sounds like a great trick! if you make a quick writeup about it you will probably get it on hackaday, plus its a nifty idea
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radiotech
Fri Jul 30 2010, 12:45AM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Looking at a table for a stepper motor "Example of data on step position error measured.. 15 degree motor

Step1 15.06 degrees
Step2 14.91
Step3 15.10
--------
Step23 15.11
Step24 14.93

the step angle measured changes from + odd step
- even step as the motor completes a revolution. What they write on the nameplate must refer back to a standard for steppers. Perhaps it factors in error.

The motor has to get the head close enough for the data to read.. The old drives used to have a tweak to get them to read track0 properly

The 8 inch old drives were sought by amateur astronomers to build polar drives.
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Bjørn
Fri Jul 30 2010, 02:00AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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By chance I took a picture before mounting it in place, there are no wires on the backside so the whole circuit should be fairly clear. My plan was to use a comparator but I must have gotten the wrong part out of the box since that is an operational amplifier.

1280455224 27 FT93482 Rotaryencoder
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Fri Jul 30 2010, 04:21AM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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That is genius! A shame I decided to chuck my old 5.25" drive a week ago mistrust
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Conundrum
Fri Jul 30 2010, 06:32PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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ROFL! same motor... smile

Maybe those "useless" old drives could be salvaged after all, a lot of 5 1/4" floppy drives used a nice stepper..

-A
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