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radiotech
Wed Jul 28 2010, 05:48PM Print
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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Many use lightbulbs as current limiters. But before instruments, (meters) were cheap and available, especially AC meters, lamps were used to test circuits with coils and capacitors by looking at the brightness. Every motor shop had a lamp-board to ring out and phase windings during rewind repairs. Moreover, both tungsten and carbon filament lamps were available. (carbon has the inverse temp/resistance ) of tungsten. If you are going to be around a while, hoard up a stash of incands; soon they will be hunted to extinction.
Lamps were used tp phase in water wheel turbines, and were more trusted than syncroscopes which could fool you into an embarassing
substation trip.
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Adam Munich
Wed Jul 28 2010, 11:26PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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What? They are 4 for $1 at my local store.

What is really hard to find is neon indicator lamps. I'm lucky enough to have 5 GE NE-34 indicators from the 30's. I was thinking of making a VU meter with them.
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radiotech
Thu Jul 29 2010, 04:53PM
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The NE34 VU could look great with some AR1s added, 5 NE34, 5 AR1. Yes, 20 cents for incands is common, Walmart was selling 4 for 68 cents in a box a while ago. The hard ones to find now are the S-1 tungsten and the carbon with the seal tip on top. Ferrowatt has some nice repros.
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Adam Munich
Thu Jul 29 2010, 04:55PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Yeah, but the only AR1's i can find are being sold for $14 each. That's not going to happen :p
7 bucks maybe. The AR-1s were made in quantities nearly 100x larger than the ne-34's. The were sold to consumers as personal sources of ultraviolet radiation, while the ne-34's were only used as indicator lamps. It's very hard to come across them, especially pristine ones.
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radiotech
Thu Jul 29 2010, 06:44PM
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NE34S are being at $37. someone has 200 for sale. My stash of NE 34s is rather scant. AR1 better. AR1's were sold as night lights and rock hounds used them as a UV source. They dont last long, and the bulb blackens. Here is a store counter top display of AR1s . The date code looks like 1964. The boxes of 10 came in a caselot of 10 boxes for a total of 100 lamps. Happily I snagged a case.
1280429065 2463 FT93426 Ar1display

1280429065 2463 FT93426 Ar1boxscript
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Fri Jul 30 2010, 04:26AM
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The direness of stocking up on incandescents depends on your location, in California it is almost illegal to install a normal screw in base lamp (not till 2012 at least, the current laws only require xx% of high efficacy lamps depending on the room)--lucky they haven't talked of banning the sale of replacement bulbs yet.
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Adam Munich
Fri Jul 30 2010, 04:36AM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Wow.
I still don't think it'll be too much of a problem for at least 30 years though.
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radiotech
Fri Jul 30 2010, 05:44AM
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much of a problem for at least 30 years though.

thinking like that led many to regret not saving the carbon bulbs when tungsten came along...now these 90 volt 4 candlepower lamps shipped from Berlin in 1908 are *almost* impossibe to find.
1280468658 2463 FT93426 Carbonlamp
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GluD
Fri Jul 30 2010, 10:35AM
GluD Registered Member #1221 Joined: Wed Jan 09 2008, 06:17PM
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Im just glad i got two 100watt bulbs of the shelves before they became illegal to trade here in denmark.

Next theyre going for the 80watts, then the 60watts and so on I think.
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