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HVPaul
Thu Jun 24 2010, 06:44PM Print
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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Went to a local tech swapfest and picked up a 24 VAC 40amp wall transformer. That's 960 watts!

I plan on using this for feeding a ZVS circuit that I'm slowly collecting parts for.

The only problem of course is that it requires rectification.
I found this Bridge Rectifier capable of handling 40 amps. And then my plan is to add a smoothing electrolytic in parallel after the bridge.

Is this a good setup? My only concern is the rating on that bridge rectifier. I would either want to build in a current limiting mechanism in a form of series capacitor in front of the bridge or user a higher rated component for the bridge.

What PSUs are you guys using for your ZVS?

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radiotech
Thu Jun 24 2010, 09:05PM
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That bridge needs no surge limiter, impedance of that wall transformer will suffice. Fuse the primary with a 15 amp time lag fuse, like a microwave oven fuse to prevent the secondary wiring from catching fire if it shorts.
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Proud Mary
Thu Jun 24 2010, 09:17PM
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Max. Spitzenstrom = 400A which will cover you for the inrush current into your filter capacitor.
Put a slow blow 40A fuse between the transformer and the rectifier, and another fuse on the mains side of the transformer.

What do you mean by a 'wall transformer?' Doesn't it usual;ly mean one of those black plastic boxes that you plug straight into a mains socket - the things some here would call a 'wall wart'? Have they grown so fat that they can supply 960W, as you say, or do you mean something different by 'wall transformer?'


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HVPaul
Fri Jun 25 2010, 03:58AM
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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It's one of these. I suspect it may be internally fused but little redundancy wont hurt.


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HVPaul
Fri Jun 25 2010, 04:37AM
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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Considering inrush current, what value/rating Capacitor should I use?
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radiotech
Fri Jun 25 2010, 06:11AM
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That transformer is 40 volt-amps. To find amperage divide 40 by 24 volts to get 1.6 amps.

It is a 40 watt wall transformer.
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Proud Mary
Fri Jun 25 2010, 08:01AM
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Well you've got into a bit of a muddle with this, Paul. smile

Your 40VA wall transformer won't do for a ZVS flyback driver.
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HVPaul
Fri Jun 25 2010, 01:54PM
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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Oh how embarrassing! You can tell I'm not an EE guy.
I'm glad I only paid pocket change for that.

In that case I'll probably just use a cheapo ATX power supply and not worry about rectification.

Thanks guys!
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radiotech
Fri Jun 25 2010, 04:20PM
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Its a class 2 transformer which means even if the output terminals are shorted, it wont burn out. This is how doorbell transformers are made. It falls between rules about transformers, class 2 greater than 20 volts and less than 30.

As for the wisdom of purchase: The unit is valuable as a safe power source for a wide range of experiments; You can connect any value of capacitor after your bridge.

It looks like a unit used for pre-led garden light sets.


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HVPaul
Fri Jun 25 2010, 05:28PM
HVPaul Registered Member #2321 Joined: Fri Aug 28 2009, 05:13PM
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Thanks for your help guys!

I'll eventually revisit this topic as I'm waiting for garbage booty to yield another microwave oven that I can gut for the MOT.

I currently have one MOT that I might use for Jacob's ladder and such and a second one for high current
low voltage DC.
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