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jpsmith123
Sat Jun 12 2010, 04:27AM
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If it's that much of a pain, then maybe you should try CST or Ansoft Maxwell.


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Patrick
Sat Jun 12 2010, 05:08AM
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i dont know how to use those either.
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jpsmith123
Sat Jun 12 2010, 05:13PM
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Well CST has lots of sample problems that you could look at, and it has a rather friendly user interface. Also I may be able to answer some of your questions.
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Patrick
Sun Jun 13 2010, 04:21AM
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i cant figure out how to download it, i mainly want intensity field grapphs, like for your coil bobbin jpsmith.
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jpsmith123
Wed Jun 30 2010, 03:03AM
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I think I may have finally succeeded in simulating space-wound helical coils using the magnetostatic solver of EM Studio...something like what would be used as a tesla coil primary, or the secondary of a short-pulse very high voltage "DRPT".

I tried it before but I always ran into trouble of some kind, e.g., the solution wouldn't converge or I got some error messages that I didn't understand and the solver would just stop, etc.

It turns out that I should've read the help files more carefully, as I wasn't setting up the excitation properly, among other things.


1277864395 1321 FT90846 Helical Coils Tetrahedral Mesh


For a 10 turn coil of diameter 8 inches and length 10 inches, I get a self-inductance value of about 12.7 uH. With two identical coils spaced about 5 inches apart, I get a coupling coefficient of about 0.026.

The inductance value of the coil is about 6% greater than what Wheeler's formula predicts, so I assume my result is in the ballpark.

Next, I'll see if it's possible to simulate an auto-transformer arrangement and then I'll try it on a flat-spiral type geometry.
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Patrick
Wed Jun 30 2010, 03:38AM
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i need to review this simulator type once i finish summer semester calculus
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PanosB_GR
Wed Jun 30 2010, 04:13PM
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jpsmith123 wrote ...

It turns out that I should've read the help files more carefully, as I wasn't setting up the excitation properly, among other things.

You could also try the high frequency solvers, to get how the inductance varies with frequency. Quite interesting.
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jpsmith123
Thu Jul 01 2010, 08:29PM
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Well it seems I can't make the magnetostatic solver work with an autotransformer coil, only with separate coils.

Next, I'll see if any of the high frequency solvers can do it.

(BTW, PanosB_GR, speaking of CST, IIRC you were involved in a discussion at edaboard.com regarding the emission models included in Particle Studio. Supposedly the latest version includes a new emission model for the PIC solver - explosive electron emission - although I didn't get a chance to fool around with it yet. I just thought you might be interested to know that if you don't already).
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PanosB_GR
Fri Jul 02 2010, 06:03AM
PanosB_GR Registered Member #1680 Joined: Fri Sept 05 2008, 04:19PM
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@jpsmith123
i have played only a little bit with that solver. i don't know if i am understanding it's parameters though and how to correctly simulate a diode.
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