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Hon1nbo
Mon May 24 2010, 09:16PM Print
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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ok, so I am reviving my Capacitor Bank Project to some degree. I have most major assembly done, but have two things remaining before testing: charging circuit, but this is easy to build for a basic test rig
the second thing left is a circuit to drive the CM600 switch for controlling the pulses. I am saving the triggered spark gap for future use, as it requires a higher bank voltage and to get things started I plan to test with just 500V

since the CM600s are practically the white elephant of hobby high voltage electronics, I want to make sure that any needs they have are met.

How should I go about driving these in a non-SSTC environment? I would need to be able to turn on and leave on, and eventually turn off after a delay.
For some reason I get the feeling that 12V through the gate via a second transistor will not perform well lol

-Jimmy
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Hon1nbo
Wed May 26 2010, 08:25PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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I found a CM600 driver board on the eastern voltage research site, will this work for something other than a SSTC?
here

-Jimmy
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ScotchTapeLord
Wed May 26 2010, 09:01PM
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I would think just using a CM600 as a switch for discharging a capacitor would be easier than using it in a SSTC.

I don't see why you couldn't get away with a 555 in monostable with properly chosen timing components along with a gate driver. For just one pulse, as opposed to tens of thousands of pulses per second, I would imagine a UCC37322/27322 would work just fine, even on a CM600. If you want to go bigger or use a higher gate voltage then just use some fast BJTs or FETs in push-pull configuration.

I would think it would be easier than with a SSTC, because without all the noise, you don't have to concern yourself with putting a negative voltage on the gate, just an ON voltage and 0.

The only other thing I can think of is maybe something to monitor the current through the system... but I think you should be okay with such a hefty brick.
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Hon1nbo
Thu May 27 2010, 02:20AM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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ScotchTapeLord wrote ...

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I would think just using a CM600 as a switch for discharging a capacitor would be easier than using it in a SSTC.

I don't see why you couldn't get away with a 555 in monostable with properly chosen timing components along with a gate driver. For just one pulse, as opposed to tens of thousands of pulses per second, I would imagine a UCC37322/27322 would work just fine, even on a CM600. If you want to go bigger or use a higher gate voltage then just use some fast BJTs or FETs in push-pull configuration.

I would think it would be easier than with a SSTC, because without all the noise, you don't have to concern yourself with putting a negative voltage on the gate, just an ON voltage and 0.

The only other thing I can think of is maybe something to monitor the current through the system... but I think you should be okay with such a hefty brick.

I'll give that a try, I thought the bricks needed something special. I've never used a brick before. I also wanted to eventually build an SSTC out of the two I have, assuming I didn't fry them. I guess I can start out with a basic driver and see how it works.

-Jimmy
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Dalus
Thu May 27 2010, 10:22AM
Dalus Registered Member #639 Joined: Wed Apr 11 2007, 09:09PM
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Just make sure you saturate them. But why do you want to use IGBT's and what energy / load are we talking about. I have a feeling that there are far more suitable switching devices for your application. The chances of destroying your brick are quite high whilst switching an inductive load.
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Hon1nbo
Thu May 27 2010, 03:36PM
Hon1nbo Registered Member #902 Joined: Sun Jul 15 2007, 08:17PM
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Dalus wrote ...

Just make sure you saturate them. But why do you want to use IGBT's and what energy / load are we talking about. I have a feeling that there are far more suitable switching devices for your application. The chances of destroying your brick are quite high whilst switching an inductive load.

I have a total of 4.2 kJ at the moment, but will likely not be using that much for a single pulse. I want to use an IGBT so that I can control the pulse length, and eventually have more efficient and well timed multi-stage devices. Also, I thought about using these IGBTs in an Arc Welder Controller (one of the reasons these things are manufactured) as a type of Photographic Flash for certain purposes.

-Jimmy
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Dalus
Thu May 27 2010, 08:44PM
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As long as you keep the device operating in spec there shouldn't be any problems. Using a UCC37321 would suffice to keep the IGBT in saturation.
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