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Erlend^SE
Sat May 15 2010, 05:46PM Print
Erlend^SE Registered Member #1565 Joined: Wed Jun 25 2008, 09:08PM
Location: Norway
Posts: 159
Me and my friend are fed up of Eagle Ligth/Freemium restrictions and by so we are interested in a "group buy" of Eagle licenses.

EAGLE Professional
10 User License
Windows, Linux, Mac

Layout Editor US$ 1494.00
Schematic Editor US$ 1494.00
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Total price US$ 2988.00
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For 10 licenses this would be the price, that is 298,8 USD per license.
Would anyone be interested in this?

This is only a suggestion, comments wanted.

Erlend S. Ervik
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Finn Hammer
Sat May 15 2010, 07:44PM
Finn Hammer Registered Member #205 Joined: Sat Feb 18 2006, 11:59AM
Location: Skørping, Denmark
Posts: 741
Erlend^SE wrote ...

Me and my friend are fed up of Eagle Ligth/Freemium restrictions and by so we are interested in a "group buy" of Eagle licenses.


For 10 licenses this would be the price, that is 298,8 USD per license.
Would anyone be interested in this?

This is only a suggestion, comments wanted.

Erlend S. Ervik

In the licence rules for multiuser licences, it says:

"Multiuser licences must be used at one single location"

So going through with this group buy would violate licence rules (almost) as much as using a pirated copy.

Cheers, Finn Hammer
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IntraWinding
Sat May 15 2010, 09:02PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
Location: London, UK
Posts: 581
How does Eagle Compare to Multisim?
If you could have any schematic capture, simulation and pcb design software, what would it be?
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Steve Conner
Sun May 16 2010, 10:10AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
I use the full version of Eagle at work. We have a 5 seat license.

It can't really be beat for smaller projects, but it starts to struggle with larger stuff. The project I'm working on just now is a 30 x 20cm 4-layer board with 17 A3 sheets of schematics, about 2500 pins in total, and that's about as big as I'd care to go. This time round, I just need to produce a netlist and bill of materials, and someone else will lay it out for me in PADS.

Digilent use Eagle to design their FPGA boards.

Multisim is a simulator, Eagle is a PCB layout program. They don't compare.

One cool thing about Eagle is that it runs on Mac and Linux as well as Windows. (and the copy/paste function doesn't make sense on any of them! :( ) Cadsoft recently changed it so that your license is valid on any platform.

My all-time favourite was probably Protel, which is now called Altium.

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IntraWinding
Sun May 16 2010, 11:05AM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
Location: London, UK
Posts: 581
I should have said Multisim + Ultiboard (I thought they combined them).

I'm surprised Multisim + Ultiboard isn't more popular than Eagle since it allows you to enter schematics, test the circuit with spice and then create a pcb. Doesn't the addition of simulation to the the process make it a winner?

Steve McConner wrote ...

My all-time favourite was probably Protel, which is now called Altium.
What impressed you with this over Eagle?

Alan
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Steve Conner
Sun May 16 2010, 01:39PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Multisim+Ultiboard is considerably more expensive than Eagle and LTSpice. The simulation isn't integrated, but that's not an issue for me, I'm not a heavy user of simulation anyway. In my experience, for anything non-trivial, it takes longer to debug a simulation than it does to breadboard the actual circuit and test it for real. And often you want to simulate a different circuit than what you're laying out.

Protel had proper hierarchical schematics and good features for design management. It also had a WYSIWG layout editor where what you saw on screen was exactly what would appear in the Gerber files, and a cool gimmick that let you view your board in 3D, and presumably export a 3D model to help with mechanical design.

Eagle's library system is poorly thought out, and Protel's is almost certainly better. They'd really have to try to make it worse.

And our PCB layout guy likes it and is trying to persuade us to change to it. smile
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IntraWinding
Wed May 19 2010, 06:53PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
Location: London, UK
Posts: 581
Thanks.

I wonder how Multisim+Ultiboard compares to the Protel offering (actually, Protel seems to be Altium now).

I see Proteus is mainly for microprocessor based circuits by the looks of it.
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