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803
Mon May 10 2010, 09:47PM Print
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Hi I have a problem, when I turn on my vttc, the mot startes to heat up ALOT. In 30 secondes the thing can boil water. Also there are arcs between the secondary and the fillament.(12 turns, stranded, regular plug wire. The metal doesn't get hot. nor the primary, just the secondary. Does anyone know what is wrong?


Thanks,

Paul

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Mads Barnkob
Tue May 11 2010, 08:17AM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Pictures, now.

First off, you should use a variac with MOTs in a VTTC, if you run it 20-30VAC under its input rating, it can almost run for a day only lukewarm to the hand.

Arcs between your secondary and the filament of the tube? Something tells me you are mixing up the different parts here, do you mean from secondary to primary or feedback coil? Nothing else should be close enough to the secondary for a arcover.

Also, for the future, supply us with all the information possible, EVERYTHING!

From your original post its impossible to give any qualified advise other than guessing.
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Steve Conner
Tue May 11 2010, 09:15AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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You need a RF bypass cap somewhere.
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue May 11 2010, 04:02PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Like Steve said, do you have a few nF capacitor across the HV supply rails?
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Sulaiman
Tue May 11 2010, 05:58PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Sounds exactly how N.Tesla 'smoked' Westinghouse's alternator/power plant -
high frequency currents in copper coils on steel cores - eddy-currents etc.
That's why an rf cap across the bus is recommended above.
If that's the problem it is an interesting repetition of TC history, the same unexpected failure with
spark gap / thermionic va;ve / semiconductor switches and whatever is next probably.

I would rewind the filament winding since the pvc insulation will be carbonised.
apart from it's cost/convenience, most pvc is terrible stuff.
Use 'magnet wire' (several strands in parallel if necessary) because more copper fits in the area (lower I2.R heating) and heat transfer is better.
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803
Tue May 11 2010, 08:52PM
803 Registered Member #2807 Joined: Fri Apr 16 2010, 08:10PM
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no I found out the problem, the secondary over heated and it arced and then the thing short circuited. I ment that the mot's seconday was arcing to wire I wraped around the core to creat a filament transformer.

All well, there is always the trusty villard cascade. :)
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