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Noah's Ark remains 'discovered' Explorers have claimed to have resolved the mystery of the last position of Noah's Ark.
by Our Foreign Staff Daily Telegraph UK 27 Apr 2010
A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical Christians said they had uncovered remnants of Noah's Ark on its legendary mountain resting place in Turkey. Noah's Ark Ministries International, a Hong Kong-based documentary outfit, said they recovered wooden specimens from a structure on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey that carbon dating proved the material was 4800 years old, around the same time the ark is said to have been afloat.
"It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it," said Yeung Wing-cheung, a Hong Kong documentary filmmaker and member of the 15-strong team.
The structure had several compartments, some with wooden beams, which were believed to house animals, he said.
The group of evangelical archaeologists ruled out an established human settlement on the grounds as none have been found in the vicinity, Mr Yeung said.
Local Turkish officials will ask the central government in Ankara to apply for UNESCO World Heritage status so the site can be protected while a major archaeological dig is conducted, Mr Yeung added.
The biblical story says God decided to flood the earth after seeing how corrupt it had become, and told Noah to build an ark and fill it with two of every animal species.
After the flood waters receded, the Bible says, the ark came to rest on a mountain.
It has long been believed that Mount Ararat, the highest point in the region, is where the Ark and it inhabitants came aground.
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Maybe the entire Earth is "Noah's Ark." That makes more sense. Can't see how you could fit two of every species inside one boat. Just the logistics would be a nightmare.
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How many species of animal are there and how big is the "ark"? Also, does it look like it would survive the sort of downpour that would flood all the earth's surface in the time allotted in the bible? That sort of deluge would drown nearly anything but a submarine. Oh, sorry I forgot; this is religion so it's not considered polite to introduce logic.
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tsunami maybe? iirc there were a few in recent geological history, perhaps some huge slab of rock fell into the sea somewhere or a really large now long-since-extinct volcano went KABOOM a la Krakatoa...
just my $0.02 worth.
such an event would neatly explain the "population crunch" in the mitochondrial records...
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The only Homo sapiens population crunch I'm aware of is the one estimated to have occurred ~70,000 years ago, that appears to coincide with the Toba super-caldera eruption.
Noah's flood is believed to be a modified version of the Epic of Gilgamesh, which may be a fanciful narrative based upon flooding of the Euphrates river, or it may be based upon oral tradition accounting of the flooding of what is now the Black Sea.
It would take talented seamanship to guide the ark, as it was described, around the world to drop off various creatures such as the giant tortises on the Galapagos islands, the Alpaca, Vizcunia, Guanaco, Llama and Rhea in South America, the Kiwi, Kakapo, and Tuatara in New Zealand, all those bloody marsupials plus the Emu and Cassowary in Austraila, the Pronghorn Antelope, Caribou, and Bison in North America, etc.
I don't very well suffer fools who believe this fable. None so blind as those who will not see.
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There is a flaw in the archaeologist's method. People who believe the bible is literally true don't believe in radio carbon dating since it erroneously dates things older than 6000 years.
No one seems to make any mention about how plants and fungi survived the flood. Some recalcitrant seeds cannot be stored for more than a few days before loosing viability. Coral reefs would also die out from being shaded in deeper water assuming changes in salinity didn't kill them.
As someone who keeps coral, I know that just about any change in their environment will kill them easily. Even the higher CO2 levels inside a house, produced by respiration of people, is enough to cause the pH of the water to drop to unfavorable levels. This requires the use of buffers, hydroxides, and an unnaturally high alkalinity to keep the pH stable.
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I think legends like that of Noah's Ark are invaluable for throwing light on the beliefs and world-view of nomadic Semitic tribes in the Late Bronze Age. Beyond this historic context, it is difficult to understand what relevance this ancient narrative of a vindictive, genocidal deity can have in the 21st Century.
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Where madness leads us: Noah's Ark remains 'discovered'
