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Ethliel
Wed Apr 21 2010, 04:59AM Print
Ethliel Registered Member #2813 Joined: Wed Apr 21 2010, 02:52AM
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I have recently built a "micro-railgun," based on the generic design found all over the internet, with two pieces of aluminum bar bolted between Plexiglas, powered by photo-flash capacitors.

While building it was relatively easy, I am having trouble with firing the device successfully. I read that the easiest to use armatures for such small railguns are simply wadded up pieces of aluminum foil. I am wondering if anyone out there knows the correct way to use the aluminum foil.
I started by just making a ball and stuffing it in, which resulted in the capacitors discharging though the projectile, with no sparks, plasma, arc-welding, or anything. I assumed this was because the projectile was to large, so I replaced it with one that was lighter and smaller. This one made sparks, and got stuck to the rails. After 13 tests, only two projectiles have moved, about 1 cm each. Any tips?

My capacitor bank is 330 V, 320 microFarads, and I have extra capacitors to get to about 1500 microFarads. Rails are about 1.5 mm apart, and 4 inches long.

Thanks for the help!
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Tesla_trooper
Wed Apr 21 2010, 06:20PM
Tesla_trooper Registered Member #82 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 12:03PM
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Have you tried field augmentation by permanent magnets or an extra pair of rails/coils?
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Andyman
Wed Apr 21 2010, 06:52PM
Andyman Registered Member #1083 Joined: Mon Oct 29 2007, 06:16PM
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Small railguns are most effective if you have some sort of injector to give the projectile some starting velocity. That way, it has less of a tendency to instantly weld to the rails and bind. Most people use a pneumatic system to do this.
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Steve Conner
Thu Apr 22 2010, 11:01AM
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You need moar power!
Link2
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GhostNull
Thu Apr 22 2010, 11:15AM
GhostNull Registered Member #2648 Joined: Sun Jan 24 2010, 12:45PM
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YES, MOAR POWAR and also look through previous threads and read the 4hv wiki there should be more than enough info on this forum for you to answer your own questions wink

and Steve I don't think German articles are very helpful wink
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Ethliel
Thu Apr 22 2010, 05:24PM
Ethliel Registered Member #2813 Joined: Wed Apr 21 2010, 02:52AM
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Good news!

I doubled the size of my capacitor bank, stuck the projectile about 1 cm into the gun (so it did not need to move as far) and it fired wonderfully.
The current model is not large enough or well designed enough to allow adding an injection system, but I have already built an air tank/ injection system for the next railgun I build. The copper for the rails comes later this week, along with other rail enclosure parts.

I like the idea of augmentation with magnets, but I am unsure of how ecavly to do that, and my search for information has been unsuccessful. Could someone point me in the right direction?
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Dr. Slack
Thu Apr 22 2010, 06:48PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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Ghostnull wrote :
and Steve I don't think German articles are very helpful

The German article wrote:
Laut Datenblatt (Epcos) haben diese Kondensatoren eine Impedanz von 25mOhm und eine Eigen-induktivität von 25nH. Die Energie bei 350V Ladespannung beträgt 4 kJ.

I think most of the 4kJ and 25mohm stuff is perfectly verstehen
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Tesla_trooper
Thu Apr 22 2010, 07:53PM
Tesla_trooper Registered Member #82 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 12:03PM
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Ethliel wrote ...

Could someone point me in the right direction?
Use the right hand rule for lorentz force and attach the magnets so their field points in the same direction.
Or just use two coils, one above and one underneath the rails.
here just use the picture entitled "seriell": Link2
Or this one from the grandmaster of railguns:
Link2
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GhostNull
Fri Apr 23 2010, 01:01AM
GhostNull Registered Member #2648 Joined: Sun Jan 24 2010, 12:45PM
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===Theory===
Link2 Railgun Theory by Matthew E. Massey
Link2 howstuffworks.com - explanation with animations
Link2 iop.org - Theoretical limits on exit velocity
Link2 Jengel and Fatro's Rail Gun Page

===Amateur===
Link2 PowerLabs Rail Gun research
Link2 Railgun theory, design, construction, and testing
Link2 Railgun Blog by Jason Rollette
Link2 Miniature Experimental Railgun
Link2 Tim Ventura's 90's-era Railgun Designs
Link2 American Antigravity's Mass-Driver Demo + Video
Link2 +EML Laboratory- Japanese Experiment+Video

===University===
Link2 The University of Texas at Austin Rail Gun
Link2 Auburn University Rail Gun

===Military===
Link2 Electromagnetic Railgun: An Innovative Naval Program

hope that helps

and it's good to hear it works now but if you are making a bigger railgun you WILL NEED MOAR POWAR!!!!!!!!
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Ethliel
Fri Apr 23 2010, 02:33AM
Ethliel Registered Member #2813 Joined: Wed Apr 21 2010, 02:52AM
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Thanks for all the help! As this is quite a large school project, I've seen a lot of what's out there about railguns, but I never thought of looking at German websites...
Actually, Google translate handles it quite well.

As for the moar powar, I might be getting donations from a capacitor company to allow about 2 kJ of stored energy. Still comparatively low, but it would allow me to scale things up a bit.
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