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Trial method of flyabck core fabrication

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Wilson
Sun Apr 30 2006, 03:18PM
Wilson Registered Member #78 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:27AM
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 133
What about putting some broken up chunks in a PVC tube and then filling the gaps with powder? Might reduce the airgaps somewhat smile
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GODSFUSION
Tue May 02 2006, 06:25AM
GODSFUSION Registered Member #157 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 08:00PM
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Once you fill the PVC with the powder couldent you tap the pipe and evacuate the air with a pump?

- wayne -
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Part Scavenger
Tue May 02 2006, 03:12PM
Part Scavenger Registered Member #79 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 11:35AM
Location: Arkansas
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I think the "air gap" is really dependent on the "gap" factor, I don't think it has much to do with air. That might get the particles closer though.
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Kolas
Sun May 07 2006, 02:37AM
Kolas Registered Member #102 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:15PM
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Ai again, once powdered the ferrite acts as a fluid pretty well. i have yet to get the fittings to give this a shot. dern 60hz tranny project consumes my time

I would like to see what the rest of you can produce, that is, the ones with time ;)

Yes, indeed my entire motive was to make a large ferrite pole pig, basicly. I'm thinking: wound with 26-18 awg wire. Assuming this method would work, which I am going to give the "benefit of the doubt" and say it will. You can introduce SS into your SGTC :). every one has power, just not the pole pig.

Anyway post results if you give this a shot.
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Dr. Shark
Tue May 09 2006, 09:45AM
Dr. Shark Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
Location: Montana, USA
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Sounds all very well, but how would you actually go about processing the ferrite into a fine powder? From my experience, it is pretty hard stuff, so you could not just pop it in the coffee mill. And even with softer materials, like charcoal, you need a big ball mill and a hell of a lot of patience to produce some fine powder. So this is where I really see the problem here.
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GimpyJoe
Tue May 09 2006, 01:14PM
GimpyJoe Registered Member #316 Joined: Mon Mar 13 2006, 01:30PM
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 212
Hey, what about making fine powder and then saturating the whole thing with ferrofluid?
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Sulaiman
Tue May 09 2006, 02:57PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
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For 60 Hz power transformer operation,
consider the total saturation flux (BxAe)
GOOD ferrite will be ok to 0.35T peak over temperature range
I think I've packed broken ferrite to about 1/3 the density of solid ferrite
so for my powdered ferrite about 0.1T peak is about maximum.
Since transformer steel is used at 1.5 to 1.8 T pk,
15 times the cross-sectional area of core is required
for homemade ferrite core vs. transformer steel for similar Volts/Turn.
The wire will be 4 times longer so needs to be 4 times the area to maintain similar resistance
So you will need 16 times the weight of copper for homemade ferrite core
compared to transformer steel core.
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