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No GDT in SSTC half bridge

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benproiii
Sun Feb 28 2010, 10:43PM Print
benproiii Registered Member #2703 Joined: Sun Feb 28 2010, 06:02PM
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is there a way to not use a Gate Drive Toroid in the SSTC

if there is no way can i put less than 15 turns on the toroid because i can not fit that much on mine
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ScotchTapeLord
Sun Feb 28 2010, 10:49PM
ScotchTapeLord Registered Member #1875 Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
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You could make separate isolated supplies for every transistor, but you'd need driver chips for each one, too. And it would be a lot more of an undertaking than just getting a suitable toroid.

Amount of turns depends on frequency, I believe.

Excellent GDT design information:

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I have used as few turns as 5 for frequencies over 350kHz, but the magnetizing current was causing some heating in the UCCs I was using. Right now I'm working with 11 turns of unsheathed cat5 to drive a half bridge and there is no heating.
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benproiii
Sun Feb 28 2010, 11:00PM
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thanks, one more thing can i use an e-core or the ferrite from a flyback transformer

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ScotchTapeLord
Sun Feb 28 2010, 11:33PM
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Link2

Some people seem to have luck with just about anything. You'll never know for sure unless you test it, though.
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Mar 01 2010, 01:04AM
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The issue is that the upper MOSFETs/IGBTs in the bridge are going to be swinging at the full voltage of the bridge. They are floating. So you need to have isolation of the control signals.

That said, they do make high side half-bridge drivers which already have the isolation built into them, although they usually don't have much current drive or voltage ratings.

BTW, not being able to fit a few turns on a toroid is no excuse for not doing it. No one else has really had this problem so you shouldn't either. Just get the right size toroid and use the right size wire.

No - don't use an e-core or flyback core. Just get a good 1 inch diameter ferrite toroid. See CWSBYTEMARK is you need to order one.
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ScotchTapeLord
Mon Mar 01 2010, 01:26AM
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(Listen to him, not me!)
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doctor electrons
Mon Mar 01 2010, 02:19AM
doctor electrons Registered Member #2390 Joined: Sat Sept 26 2009, 02:04PM
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I second that! I wound up a few already (by no means an expert) and they seem to get
a bit crammed. But they always work! A tip that may help you out... Different wire types have
different types of insulation. Different thicknesses! A 22 awg wire could be 1/8 inch thick of a certain type.
If it meets your needs, tear open a parallel printer cable! The awg only refers to the copper, not the insulation!
Hope that steers you in the right direction! wink
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