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hboy007
Tue Jan 19 2010, 12:36PM
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You're right. I should have looked at the datasheet first. I thought IAmSmooth intended to put two separate diodes in parallel but the diode he plans to use can be used as a 2x 30A double diode or a single (paralleled) diode.
I just hope that 100V will be enough in his application.
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GeordieBoy
Tue Jan 19 2010, 02:54PM
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As Steve said co-packed Schottky diodes are fabricated on the same wafer at the same time so have excellent matching of intrinsic properties. The close proximity achieved by sharing one die and heat-spreader also means that if one device heats up, they both do. The device properties (particularly Vf) track each other and current sharing is maintained.

-Richie,
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Sulaiman
Tue Jan 19 2010, 07:00PM
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Although the 'ideal' V-I curve is exponential and very temperature dependant,
real diodes have series resistance which dominates the V-I curve at high current,
so any two similar diodes in parallel;
will NOT share current at 'low' currents
but WILL share when used as high current rectifiers.
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MinorityCarrier
Tue Jan 19 2010, 09:32PM
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Where I work, we don't package dual die (not scribed apart) from the same wafer, although the die will often be from the same wafer, in our dual diodes (Schottkey and DQ ultrafast) unless by special customer order. Our apps. folks say matching in duals would be close but not exact.
I'd still prefer to use one 60A diode than two 30A diodes in a dual package wired parallel.
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Steve Conner
Tue Jan 19 2010, 09:55PM
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Interesting... Where do you work, APT?

While we have a semiconductor expert on the line, I have a question. Hi-fi designer Douglas Self once used the MOSFET models in PSpice to "show" that MOSFETs had worse crossover distortion in audio amps than BJTs. Lately I'm starting to think, well, he showed that the models have terrible crossover distortion, but how well do they model the real devices down near threshold, as they're only just starting to turn on?

I have some N/P pairs of lateral MOSFETs made for audio, and I can't get anything out of them that looks like Self's results. In fact, I can't measure any crossover distortion from them at all! I wondered if the maker could do some sort of tweak to them to smooth out their behaviour at low currents, so they cross over smoothly, but Spice can't model it because it doesn't fit the model.

If this gets anywhere I can split it into another thread, otherwise please excuse the digression! smile
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IamSmooth
Tue Jan 19 2010, 10:10PM
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Here is what I got

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It is a single diode with two anodes and one cathode. Why does it have two anodes?
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hboy007
Wed Jan 20 2010, 12:54AM
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"Why do hot dogs come in packages of ten, but hot dog buns only come in packages of just eight?" wink

well I think they are handy in combination with center-tapped secondary windings to get a full bridge-like combination of the half waves with only one p-n junction in the way.
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teravolt
Wed Jan 20 2010, 03:53AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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That diode has two leads because one probibly can't handle the current in operation. The case connection is one of the connections (like bolting it directly to a heat synk) and then the center lead is cut and the two anode leads connect to the source of the fet
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MinorityCarrier
Wed Jan 20 2010, 05:00AM
MinorityCarrier Registered Member #2123 Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
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I work at what used to be APT but is now Microsemi Power Products Group. I'm their wet etch/dry etch/ gold electroplate process engineer, not their semiconductor expert. I defer to our device engineers when I have a question.

But to get back to your query, linear N-ch mosfets we make use an assymetrical gate structure, two different thickness gate oxides under one gate finger (hundreds of such gate fingers in parallel), hence two different threshold voltages. I don't believe we make a P-ch linear device.

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