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raff
Thu Jan 07 2010, 02:30AM Print
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
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guys,

HOW do you "SEE" it in the datasheet?

was wondering if IRG4PF50WD could handle 300-350KHz?
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Mads Barnkob
Thu Jan 07 2010, 06:25AM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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Look at the Trise, Ton, Tfall, Toff times

But if you look at the load current rating vs frequency in the datasheet, you will see how careful you have to do your switching to avoid blow igbts :)
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Luca
Thu Jan 07 2010, 08:38AM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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Considering the delay/rise/fall time I would say that the maximum frequency for such device could be around 200-300 KHz, in soft switch (almost zero current at switching).

Anyway, with a total gate charge of 160nC you need a powerful gate driver to switch such device at 300KHz...

Personally I would not go above 100-150KHz with such device.

Regards

Luca
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Jan 07 2010, 09:33AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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The switching times are not that bad, you'll probably need to introduce some deadtime however (either passive - parallel RD on the gates, or active by delaying the gate drive switching transitions), I think these could do 350Khz just fine.

But yes, if you want to run the gatedriver uninterrupted, you will probably need to parallel more or use the drivers which screw on a heatsink.
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brtaman
Thu Jan 07 2010, 02:03PM
brtaman Registered Member #2161 Joined: Fri Jun 05 2009, 03:36PM
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Come on guys, 160 nC isn't that bad. smile A pair of UCC's will drive a half bridge.

I am running a half-bridge of 320 nC MOSFETs in my SSTC with the Fo being 400kHz. Interrupted no issues 15+ min. run. For CW I have a small heatsink glued on the packages, heat isn't too large of an issue. Since these transistors are going in a DRSSTC, I don't think he will have much issue as far as the gate drive portion is concerned. Though as Luca mentioned some TO-220 9A drivers are always a good idea, for peace of mind and a clean build.
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raff
Thu Jan 07 2010, 02:41PM
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
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Hi guys,

thanks for the input.. while waiting for answers, I googled and came with this:

Link2

it says switching freq is 60-150KHz..

so thats it :)

anyways, looks like I have to wind another secondary for this one... was planning on getting CLOSE to at least 150KHz..

1st option: awg #34 12" L x 4.2" OD ~~OR~~ #34 24"L x 2.2"OD .. of course will use 2 torroids for toploads (1.9"x10.2" & 1.35" x 6")

w/c of the two secondary coil dimensions best suit for this igbt?
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Luca
Thu Jan 07 2010, 04:38PM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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I think that they say 60-150k because they refer to "hard switching", in resonant mode you gan go for shure faster, if your gate driver is powerful enough.

Luca
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Luca
Fri Jan 08 2010, 04:23PM
Luca Registered Member #2481 Joined: Mon Nov 23 2009, 03:07PM
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Dr. Kilovolt wrote ...

you'll probably need to introduce some deadtime however (either passive - parallel RD on the gates

Hi Dr. Kilovolt, how would you implement a "passive" deadtime with parallel RD on the gates? Could you post a schematic, please?
Thanks in advance

Luca
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