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Just wanted to show my Induction Heater in action

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teravolt
Sat Jan 02 2010, 05:09AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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thanks Jonathan, its alot to absorb bought some mica caps on ebay they are from custom caps .1 @ 750ac I have to see if they will be sutible. cheers.
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IamSmooth
Sun Jan 10 2010, 11:51PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I have gotten over 3kw of input power going through the mosfets. I measured at one time that 90% of that was making it into the coupling transformer. I am working on improving the coupler.

Here is a video showing 3kw melting aluminum. Near the end you can see molten metal dripping onto the metal plate at the bottom.
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doctor electrons
Sun Jan 10 2010, 11:57PM
doctor electrons Registered Member #2390 Joined: Sat Sept 26 2009, 02:04PM
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"Can any of you tell me where I can get a crucible that can withstand molten steel? I saw Kimlaha use some asbestos-looking container and cover in his video. If I can contain the radiating heat I should be able to make a molten bath of metal in a few minutes."
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Nice work!! Try this place Link2
Pricing is very reasonable and there is a catalog you can download for free!
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IamSmooth
Mon Jan 11 2010, 01:20AM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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Thanks. I actually bought one from them. I got that one and it couldn't stand the heat. I think the problem is my crucibles are too thin and the heat/cold shock is destroying them.
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doctor electrons
Mon Jan 11 2010, 02:10AM
doctor electrons Registered Member #2390 Joined: Sat Sept 26 2009, 02:04PM
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Bummer! My bet would be that you are 100% correct about the shock. These things are very fragile!
Maybe they could suggest a different material? Call them and get some free info, they know more about
the materials than i do. Just thought the low cost would be what you were looking for. I work 2 buildings away from
Pillar induction, i will take a trip over there on my lunch break tomorrow and ask them what they use. wink
We do quite a bit of business with them!
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Conundrum
Mon Jan 11 2010, 06:50PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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preheat the crucibles with directed hot air (koff solder rework station /koff) maybe?

then keep the heat on after switch off and back off until near room temp.

just my $0.02 worth.
-A
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IamSmooth
Mon Jan 11 2010, 07:45PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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I think the preheat is correct based on my conversations with some metallurgy companies. I was just cranking it to 2000f within a minute.

I also plan to make a coil for levitation, so that will solve the crucible problem. I will just melt the metal in mid-air. So it hope.
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doctor electrons
Tue Jan 12 2010, 01:50AM
doctor electrons Registered Member #2390 Joined: Sat Sept 26 2009, 02:04PM
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Well,... Stopped by Pillar like i said i would! They told me that cracking crucibles is in fact a matter of temperature shock.
They told me that ,, "Induction heaters are cabable of delivering extreme amounts of energy, concentrated on a small
amount of space, in a very short period of time." "Most crucibles are kept warm in an oven before and after being used." So
it sounds like a normal one will work if you have a way of always keeping it warm and dry! I guess you have to just treat it
like its your only child


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klugesmith
Tue Jan 12 2010, 02:40AM
klugesmith Registered Member #2099 Joined: Wed Apr 29 2009, 12:22AM
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doctor electrons wrote ...
"Most crucibles are kept warm in an oven before and after being used." So
it sounds like a normal one will work if you have a way of always keeping it warm and dry! I guess you have to just treat it
like its your only child

Always be prepared to empty the crucible (pour out all molten metal) while hot.

If you let a substantial amount of metal solidify in the crucible,
any attempt to re-melt it will probably crack the crucible as the solid metal expands.
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Nicko
Tue Jan 12 2010, 04:46AM
Nicko Registered Member #1334 Joined: Tue Feb 19 2008, 04:37PM
Location: Nr. London, UK
Posts: 615
Nice project.

Is that two Tek P5210s there? That's about USD 5,000 of differential probes (connected to a 'scope worth a fraction of that)! Work or personal?
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