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Zeus
Tue Dec 22 2009, 12:58AM
Zeus Registered Member #2316 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 03:04AM
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They are on the primary side. Also the inductor functions as a ballast and the cap corrects the power factor thus removing the current lag.
It just stops computers and other electronics malfunctioning and having complaints/being driven out of town by neighbours.
[Sorry, typo]
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue Dec 22 2009, 11:14AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Zeus, with the resonant caps the power factor is from my experience corrected nicely, no need to correct it further,
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Steve Conner
Tue Dec 22 2009, 11:37AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Antonio wrote ...

I would not expect significant resonance with a MOT.

I'm not too sure how MOT resonance works. But it does seem to let arcs be drawn considerably longer, and people have posted some impressive results with it. Try searching the forum and archives.

I wouldn't bother with the ballast inductor and PFC. The whole point of the resonant setup is to cancel the ballasting effect of whatever leakage inductance the MOT already has. So why add inductance back in?
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brtaman
Tue Dec 22 2009, 10:00PM
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Uzzors has had some very impressive results with his MOT resonance experiments.

He also did a nice write-up. Check out his page: Link2
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Zeus
Thu Dec 24 2009, 02:48AM
Zeus Registered Member #2316 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 03:04AM
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The ballast inductor is for safety. As there is far more voltage than the MOT secondary is designed for. So if it goes short, it doesn't blow fuses/up.
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radiotech
Thu Dec 24 2009, 06:32AM
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To find the inductance of the MOT winding by itself you could measure the current and wattage when it is operating at reasonable excitation levels. This will give you an indication of Q as well. The instruments to do this well are costly. The newer cheap wattage testers like the Kill-A-Watt might be used. Working back from the power factor, and getting an accurate DC resistance will give you henrys. If you resonate an iron core power transformer you drive it to saturation if sourced
with sufficient current. This makes the core buzz instead of hum. Squarish waves result. The only trannys that 'ferroresonance' are cvt's (constant voltage transformers) (old Sola CVTs) the IEEE
is very vary about ferroresonace in their transformer standard C57 as it occurs, and causes
destructive overvoltages. A word about linemen's gloves. Never ever trust them with your life unless you have been instructed on their use and the gloves have been tested at whatever interval the utility saftey regs say.
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