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raff
Fri Dec 18 2009, 04:03AM Print
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
Location: Leyte, PH
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Hi guys,

I find THESE a bit confusing...

w/c of the TWO is best for DR?

IRG4PC50UD 600V 55A 220A pulsed
IRG4PF50WD 900V 51A 204A pulsed

the ONLY difference I see now is that the 900V device IS A LOT cheaper than the 600V... for a used part(here in our area)
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Mads Barnkob
Fri Dec 18 2009, 01:38PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
Location: Denmark, Odense C
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I would go with the 900V IGBT, it is a bit slower, but requires less gate charge and you can run with a higher bus voltage, if you keep it around or under 200 kHz I would guess they would do fine.
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raff
Sat Dec 19 2009, 01:26PM
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
Location: Leyte, PH
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Mads,
thanks for the quick reply.. yeah 900V devices coming my way in a few days... I was also *planning* on doubling my input voltage(from 220Vac mains) ... but may be a MORE dangerous coil ?
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Steve Conner
Sat Dec 19 2009, 01:51PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I've seen people use both of those devices in DRs, and they seemed to work OK.

The IRG4PF50WD is the original hobbyist IGBT discovered by Terry Fritz around 2000. It was the first affordable device that could drive a Tesla coil, and I used it in my mini OLTC years ago. The W stands for "Warp speed" as it was IR's fastest IGBT at the time. (The U in the other part number is "Ultra speed".)

However, both of these devices are from an older generation, and the newer Fairchild and Ixys parts that everyone uses now are faster still.
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raff
Sat Dec 19 2009, 02:37PM
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
Location: Leyte, PH
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Thanks for the input Steve,

nice to know about the "warp" device amazed

at least Im glad THEY can be used for DR.. finally...

though I still have a bit of a problem.. for the primary LC, cant get CDE caps(or will surely have a hard time getting one)

all I could get are 630V mylars... though I have tested those caps(with mosfets as switches) ... DR with mosfets... I dont know if the caps can stand the abuse... angry
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