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cduma
Wed Dec 16 2009, 08:09PM Print
cduma Registered Member #1822 Joined: Fri Nov 21 2008, 08:04PM
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I am buying some mercury this evening for $6/LB. I am going to buy 2LB so I can have some left over to play with. Are the rectifiers as simple as they look?
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Proud Mary
Wed Dec 16 2009, 10:56PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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In a word, No.

Conditions inside the valve envelope must be such that mercury vapour condenses on the walls of the tube, and trickles back down to the bottom, where it is again recycled . Thermal equilibrium is only achievable over a limited ambient temperature range.

Mercury vapour rectifiers produce both strong RFI, and strong UV, both of which must be guarded against.

Here is the data sheet of the once very popular 816:

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Zeus
Thu Dec 17 2009, 02:56AM
Zeus Registered Member #2316 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 03:04AM
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Not to mention mercury is quite dangerous.
Try hot cathode recitfiers.
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cduma
Tue Jan 05 2010, 04:48PM
cduma Registered Member #1822 Joined: Fri Nov 21 2008, 08:04PM
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I would advise any one against making an MAR. I bought 14LBs and now I have been contacted by local detectives and even an EPA special agent. I didnt even know that they had those. It is simply way too much trouble.
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MinorityCarrier
Tue Jan 05 2010, 06:04PM
MinorityCarrier Registered Member #2123 Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
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Hmmm....

If I may ask, what line of questioning did these folks pursue?

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Steve Conner
Tue Jan 05 2010, 06:38PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Yeah, I'd like to know too, and I think it would be interesting information for other forum members. So, much appreciated if you could tell us what went on.
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Plasma Lover
Tue Jan 05 2010, 07:37PM
Plasma Lover Registered Member #1911 Joined: Mon Jan 05 2009, 06:30PM
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Also, you wouldn't happen to be willing to give your source for said mercury or be willing to sell your stock, would you?
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cduma
Tue Jan 05 2010, 09:19PM
cduma Registered Member #1822 Joined: Fri Nov 21 2008, 08:04PM
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Basicly they wanted to know why I have it, who I got it from and confirm that I am aware of how to handle it and the (legal)consequences of mishandling it.

I bought the mercury off of some guy and if your willing to drive all of the way to southern Ohio you can just have it.
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radiotech
Tue Jan 05 2010, 09:49PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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If you spilled metalic mercury in a home built of wood and gypsum there would be no easy of preventing traces from being detected.
Years after a shop where mercury instruments were repaired, a testing company checked the air for vapor. I stomped on the floor
at the wall line and under a flashlight globules of mercury still could be seen.Since mercury was extensively used in the days before 4-20
milliamp instrument circuits it surely did affect those working in the instrumentation trade.
If you pattern the rectifier after the Cooper-Hewitt, tilt started designs, you will have to have a way to pull a vacuum. The old literature describes it as a highly attenuated form of mercury vapor. A "Torricellian" vacuum space has been known a blue glow for about 400 years. here's an interesting site: Link2
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MinorityCarrier
Wed Jan 06 2010, 12:59AM
MinorityCarrier Registered Member #2123 Joined: Sat May 16 2009, 03:10AM
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I played with mercury a lot when I was between 12 and 15 years of age, and I suspect now that I may have poisoned myself somewhat then.

Almost fifteen years later and well-educated on the dangers of mercury, I went to work at Hughes Aircraft in Carlsbad, California in 1981. Someone gave me a tour of the mercury diffusion pump room where they evacuated their CRT's and DVST's they made for the military. It was unbelievable. It was hot in there, and there was small spilled mercury droplets everywhere in crevices on the floor. I left that room immediately.
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