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non inverting UCCx7321

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Avi
Thu Nov 12 2009, 01:33PM Print
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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Does anyone else experience a higher failure rate of the UCC27321 and UCC37321 (non inverting) compared the the UCC27322 and UCC37322 (inverting) type?
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Mads Barnkob
Thu Nov 12 2009, 03:04PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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I have only burned a even amount of the inverted and non inverted, so that would be a no from me.

Have you checked that you do not have a irregular load on your non inverted driver?

Is your x in the part number 2 or 3, different temperature range.
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Adrenaline
Thu Nov 12 2009, 04:23PM
Adrenaline Registered Member #235 Joined: Wed Feb 22 2006, 04:59PM
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Yes, actually. Last night I just roached 6 UCC27322 versus 2 UCC27321. I think I have a glitch in my pulse shaping network driving their inputs.

I just ordered some IXDN409CI and IXDI409CI, 9A TO-220, hopefully they are more robust.
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Avi
Fri Nov 13 2009, 07:10AM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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by x, i man 2 or 3.
I have edited my post.
it seems to be uneven failure rates even if it is the same load between the 2 types.
Recently, i had one fail with no load at all. Brand new.
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Fri Nov 13 2009, 07:22AM
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You might try digging through the archives, I remember that Matt B (member blackplasma) was pushing the ucc3232x chips to excessively high frequencies and decided that one of the chips was notably faster than the other.

If the resistor between the ucc and the gate is on the same order as the output impedance of the ucc chip it could be that the chip with a lower output impedance is working harder, and heating more. Or in the converse case if the gate resistor is large the chip with the higher output impedance will be dissipating more power due to ir losses and heating more.
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Avi
Fri Nov 13 2009, 07:26AM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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generally i think it is something goes wrong with the chip and THEN it starts heating. Otherwise they are fine before this occurs.
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Frosty90
Fri Nov 13 2009, 07:30AM
Frosty90 Registered Member #1617 Joined: Fri Aug 01 2008, 07:31AM
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Hi,
Do you use clamping diodes on the output of the chip? I've killed quite a few, then as soon as I put clamping diodes on the output, Ive never killed one (Although I now usually use the TC44xx ones)
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Avi
Fri Nov 13 2009, 09:50AM
Avi Registered Member #580 Joined: Mon Mar 12 2007, 03:17PM
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sometimes.
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Adrenaline
Fri Nov 13 2009, 03:17PM
Adrenaline Registered Member #235 Joined: Wed Feb 22 2006, 04:59PM
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I re-read the OP. The UCC37321 are the INVERTING type. UCC37322 are NON-inverting.

I have run with clamping diodes and without; I haven't noticed a failure trend.

However, I did have a bridge,2 pair in Push-Pull, of them fail similar to Avi. The UCC's had no logic input, just bus voltage and they quickly sizzled and popped. I am still boggled by this failure.
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Dr. Dark Current
Fri Nov 13 2009, 03:47PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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maybe the non-inverting chip can "catch" positive feedback (e.g. with high impedance on the input), start oscillating at a very high frequency and kill itself?

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