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Coronafix
Wed Oct 28 2009, 06:37AM Print
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Hi All,
I'm building my first SSTC at long last. I was totally inspired by Mads Kaizer II coil Link2 and have followed his schematic which is in the most part Steve Wards with Reachings audiomod circuit.
My problem so far is that the pots in the interupter circuit seem to get capacitively coupled to my hand. When I bring my hand near the 2M (2 1M in series) the frequency on my scope rises, and if I bring my hand near the 10k pot the frequency lowers.
Anyone have any idea why this happens?
Here is a photo of the board so far.
1256711763 160 FT0 28102009716
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raff
Wed Oct 28 2009, 08:51AM
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
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you could put the electronics inside a metal casing and ground it.. that way , it cant be affected by "outside" capacitance
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GeordieBoy
Wed Oct 28 2009, 11:11AM
GeordieBoy Registered Member #1232 Joined: Wed Jan 16 2008, 10:53PM
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You could also try using a timing capacitor bigger than the, ermmm, NON-EXIXSTANT one in that schematic!!!

In short there should be a capacitor between pin 2 of the 555 timer and ground. This works with those resistors to set the operating frequency. Without a discrete capacitor there the operating frequency will be determined by the stray capacitance of this node of the circuit, and will be very high! It will also be heavily dependent on what is nearby, as you found out by waving your hand near it!

Try a capacitor around the 10nF value between pins 1 and 2 of the 555 timer and re-test the circuit. My bet is that the designer accidentally omitted it from the schematic :-o

-Richie,
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Oct 28 2009, 11:18AM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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I am sorry for the faulty schematic, the revised version is online at my new site: Link2

I will remove the old articles when I get home from work later today.
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raff
Wed Oct 28 2009, 12:32PM
raff Registered Member #2315 Joined: Tue Aug 25 2009, 02:35AM
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mads,

have your run that coil directly with 220Vac mains? meaning NOT USING variac...
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Mads Barnkob
Wed Oct 28 2009, 02:36PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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raff wrote ...

mads,

have your run that coil directly with 220Vac mains? meaning NOT USING variac...

Not as in plugging it directly into the socket, but it have been run at 260VAC in through a variac
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Arcstarter
Wed Oct 28 2009, 02:54PM
Arcstarter Registered Member #1225 Joined: Sat Jan 12 2008, 01:24AM
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As a sidenote, your name sounds kinda ironic. Let's fix Coronafix's corona machine. Just a weird obvious observation...

My sstc's did that too. A few times i even had an arc jump from me to the trimmers (i had to hold them by the encasing plastic, and my fingers where about 3mm away from the leads) which made the interrupt signal all weird, as you can imagine, and make an odd noise. It happened to me first when i started taking the video i have on youtube, and in the 5 or so minute run period, it happened twice.

The interference caused by sstc's are huge, and things build up a charge very fast, and very easy. I stood at my rooms door, one day, about 6 feet from the operating coil, and when people walked by i would draw a little arc. As you can imagine, pots do not like that mistrust

Just as raff suggested, shield it. An ATX PSU metal box is ideal, it has the mains connector, and sometimes a switch, as well as that little RF filter right on the plug, sometimes. Also, the box is already grounded. If you can't fit it, get some other box...

By the way, looks very nice so far.
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Coronafix
Wed Oct 28 2009, 09:23PM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Brjiggitty!! I failed to notice that rather obvious omittance, lucky it's not my day job. Thanks Richie. Thanks Mads for the revised schematic too.
I will be putting it in a metal case but I wasn't running the bridge yet so there couldn't be any interference. This should sort it out, but it will mess up my board layout now. frown
No corona yet Arcs, if there was...I could fix it. wink
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