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Thanks for all the ideas but, the majority of them are not exactly legal such as burning circuit boards or shooting them since we are 150' away from a residence.
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1) obtain an arc welder. 2) place drive on metal worktable. grounded. 3) flip helmet down. 4) scratch start 1/8" 7018 welding electrode on metal drive surface. 5) after arc if fully ignited, hold over platters for as long as you like..
That was easy! 0's & 1's? 2's wouldn't even live through that one!
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2's might make it. They're horrific. (Like that robot nightmare Bender had).
I think we've covered the gamut here:
Remove the platters and crush/heat/melt them. Dissolve with Acid. And finally, on topic: magnets. Lot's of workable options, though some details need to be worked out.
See if you can talk to the guy who runs the scrap lifter at your local yard. Maybe he'll let you bring in a box of drives and cling them to that magnet for a bit. Or heat. A 450deg oven might not do the trick, but heating the cases up with a propane torch doesn't seem too hard. No one is saying burn the circuit boards. Indirect heat to the pcbs shouldn't vaporize any lead in the time it would take to make the case glow red-hot.
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As somebody already said, the MOD and secret squirrel lot usually chip their drives- it can't be reasonably undone with current tech.
Realistically, you just probably want to degauss them. Provided it's not a 3 letter agency, practically nobody has the tech to undo a degauss.
To degauss them, just a strong enough DC supermagnet(s) should work; or any degaussing coil system you want (but the supermagnet stuff is likely to be simpler and more reliable if you engineer it right).
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use platters as electroplating blanks and make some cool Al objects.
:) induction heater with work coil shaped like a hard drive would probably work.
Even the Al lid would be no match for this sort of field strength, and the heat would permanently destroy the platters without warping them allowing reuse as electrolysis plates.
(plus you get the SMD bits off the board for free!)
regards, -A "Bother" said Pooh, as he received his exam results...
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you could always hack the drive open, take out the shiny disks and hold them against a rough bench grinder, untill the disks are pretty much too deformed to be identified as disks. as for the casing, you can probably use it as an ashtray or something, or just chuck it into a nearby river. if all else fails, throw the drives into a substation air switch >:)
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Hard drive platters are aluminum, it is not wise to use aluminum with grinders. The aluminum and other non ferrous metals will gum up the disc. Aluminum and non ferrous metals are sanded.
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If the volume justifies it I would buy/build an iron-core dc electromagnet with a gap large enough to fit a drive, nothing to clever, just a full-wave rectifier from the mains feeding the coil(s) - which would be about 1000m of 1mm2 wire. A couple of seconds would be required so duty-cycle is low.
I wouldn't use ac since the drive enclosure is a (deliberately) good shield AND the aluminium platters would (by Lenz's law) reduce the magnetic field at the disk surfaces.
I would't use permanent magnets because if something gets stuck you can't turn the magnets off.
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