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What's the best way to remove the core laminations from an "E" core type ignition coil?

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jpsmith123
Thu Oct 15 2009, 03:40AM Print
jpsmith123 Registered Member #1321 Joined: Sat Feb 16 2008, 03:22AM
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I wonder what's the best way to remove the welded-together core from an HEI type ignition coil (with the lowest risk of damaging the coil)?

Luckily, the welds don't seem very deep.

I wish I had a milling machine, as I would try to mill the welded portion off with a small carbide end mill...but I don't have one yet, so it looks like I would have to use a hack saw or a grinder.

Has anyone here ever done this?
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Myke
Thu Oct 15 2009, 03:54AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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People have used just hacksaws to remove EI sections from an MOT. I don't have an angle grinder but I heard they were not as good as hacksaws because they are a lot messier and they wear down faster. You may have to use a screwdriver to pry apart the sections even though the welds are cut. Cutting the welds removes some of the core's cross sectional area making it easier to saturate the core(I think) so don't cut too deep.
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jpsmith123
Thu Oct 15 2009, 04:10AM
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I want to remove the whole core, and replace it with a ferrite core. I guess I'll just have to go with a hack saw and be very careful. Here is the situation I basically have: Link2

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3l3ctrici7y
Thu Oct 15 2009, 04:11AM
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I used an angle grinder (with a thin cut-off wheel) to cut the welds on a MOT, and it worked quite well. As for an HEI, I think that the same approach would work. If you're just wanting to be rid of the core, then clamp the core in a vise and go at the weld with a grinder or saw or whatever.. if you want the core, then be careful to only remove the metal that is part of the weld.

As long as you don't knick the coil with the cutting tool, you should be fine for the coil. If you're wanting to keep the core, then use an angle grinder. A hack saw will put significant side force on the core. The grinder spins so fast that it puts very little force in the metal its grinding on.

I love the grinder for cutting off bolts, because it will not deform the threads at all.. hence the nut will turn right on as if it was a factory end.
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jpsmith123
Thu Oct 15 2009, 12:36PM
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Well I guess it's all academic now, as my plans seem to be on hold.

The ferrite core I wanted is apparently one of those sizes that everyone catalogs, but no one stocks...and the only way to get it is to buy a large number of pieces.

Well so much for that idea.
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Wolfram
Thu Oct 15 2009, 01:21PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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If you are located in the US, check out TSC ferrite Link2 . They sell single units to individuals, and their prices are very good.


Anders M.
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jpsmith123
Thu Oct 15 2009, 02:52PM
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Hello Anders,

Yes, thank you, I have been to the TSC International web site. I was holding off ordering from them as they didn't have the part available in the material I wanted...but I guess I don't have much choice and I will have to go with the more lossy material.
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Killa-X
Thu Oct 15 2009, 11:24PM
Killa-X Registered Member #1643 Joined: Mon Aug 18 2008, 06:10PM
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You have to hate the cores that they end up welding the sides like I see on yours...Usually with cores that are just glued, you can just use a razor to slide, and screwdriver to pry. When i resorted to cutting a core I used a motorized hacksaw. Like a sawsall, just smaller and lighter.
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jpsmith123
Fri Oct 16 2009, 01:27AM
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I decided I'm not going to try to remove the laminated core until I have the ferrite U cores in my hand and I inspect them to make sure that they'll fit (which will hopefully be a week or so).

After that, I'll remove the core and take some measurements, first with no core (i.e., air core), and then with the new ferrite core.
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3l3ctrici7y
Fri Oct 16 2009, 04:44AM
3l3ctrici7y Registered Member #1806 Joined: Sun Nov 09 2008, 04:58AM
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Here's a link related to decoring an HEI.

Link2
Here he uses it aircore.
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